16643 2012-04-05 16:36:02 +0000 WebVTT: Displaying multiple lines 2012-10-08 23:01:49 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified TextTracks CG WebVTT unspecified All All RESOLVED FIXED P2 normal --- 1 franko ian glenn ian mike public-texttracks silviapfeiffer1 dave.null oldest_to_newest 66447 0 franko 2012-04-05 16:36:02 +0000 (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-texttracks/2012Apr/0002.html) As an caption file author, I would expect that WebVTT would have some mechanism for defining and displaying multiple lines in a single cue (Use cases: One line each for two+ simultaneous speakers; A line of dialogue + a line with a sound effect description, etc ) In the spec, WebVTT line terminators are used to indicate separate (parsed) lines; we should apply this to cue text as well: 00:00:00.142 --> 00:00:08.501 Line 1 Line 2 Line 1 would render above Line 2 in the video. We should change the spec to clearly specify that WebVTT line terminators indicate a line break in cue text. For the sample cue above, .getCueAsHTML() should return a document fragment with three nodes: Line 1 <br /> LIne 2 66456 1 glenn 2012-04-05 21:22:49 +0000 This is not how WebVTT should behave. Please see the discussion in the thread you started (as well as earlier discussions): http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-texttracks/2012Apr/0002.html If you want an explicit line break, you should be required to insert one explicitly, as with HTML. 00:00:00.142 --> 00:00:08.501 Line 1<br> Line 2 (As an aside, note that if you have two simultaneous speakers, or other simultaneous but distinct events, you should generally encode that as two cues with the same timestamp, not as one cue with a line break encoded in it.) Please follow-up on the mailing list where this is being discussed, to avoid fragmenting the discussion. Thanks. 67077 2 ian 2012-04-25 22:39:21 +0000 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-texttracks/2012Apr/0108.html 71353 3 ian 2012-07-24 04:51:45 +0000 Frank: Can you elaborate on why the spec isn't clear that line breaks are preserved when rendering cues? The spec says "The 'white-space' property on the (root) List of WebVTT Node Objects must be set to 'pre-wrap'". 71523 4 franko 2012-07-26 18:48:51 +0000 (In reply to comment #3) > Frank: Can you elaborate on why the spec isn't clear that line breaks are > preserved when rendering cues? The spec says "The 'white-space' property on the > (root) List of WebVTT Node Objects must be set to 'pre-wrap'". I think it would be better to clearly define in the spec how multi-line cues should be constructed. Right now, there is no clear indicator that I should use <br> or \n (reading through the parsing algorithm defined in the spec indicates that multi-line cues as not supported at all) 71861 5 ian 2012-08-06 21:27:16 +0000 I can add some non-normative prose somewhere to make it clearer to people just scanning through the spec, but as far as I can tell what an implementation must do is unambiguously defined. 75644 6 contributor 2012-10-08 23:01:49 +0000 Checked in as WHATWG revision r7442. Check-in comment: Add some material to WebVTT regarding line breaks. http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=7441&to=7442