16629 2012-04-04 10:04:10 +0000 [AAPI]: a (no href attribrute) MSAA: ROLE_SYSTEM_ TEXT why? 2016-02-01 21:05:27 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified HTML WG HTML a11y APIs (editor: Steve Faulkner, Cynthia Shelly) unspecified PC Windows NT RESOLVED WONTFIX http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2012Apr/0007.html a11y P2 normal --- 1 faulkner.steve cyns hans.hillen jason mike public-html-admin public-html-wg-issue-tracking surkov.alexander sideshowbarker+html-a11y-api oldest_to_newest 66412 0 faulkner.steve 2012-04-04 10:04:10 +0000 alex wrote: a (no href attribrute) MSAA: ROLE_SYSTEM_ TEXT Firefox exposes <a> as ROLE_SYSTEM_LINK always. If no @href then no STATE_LINKED. Any particular reason to expose it as SYSTEM_TEXT? 84893 1 jason 2013-03-24 01:16:52 +0000 I don't know the reasoning behind Internet Explorer exposing <a> elements as ROLE_SYSTEM_TEXT instead of ROLE_SYSTEM_LINK, but it doesn't seem necessarily inappropriate or inconsistent based on the definition of ROLE_SYSTEM_LINK: "The object represents a link to something else. This object might look like text or a graphic, but it acts like a button." [1] However, IE also sets STATE_SYSTEM_LINKED whether or not the <a> element has an @href, which doesn't make sense to me based on the definition of STATE_SYSTEM_LINKED: "Indicates that the object is formatted as a hyperlink. The object's role will usually be ROLE_SYSTEM_TEXT." [2] I agree that ROLE_SYSTEM_LINK seems to make more sense where there is an @href, but not when there is no @href since the object doesn't "represent a link to something else." What is Firefox's argument for keeping ROLE_SYSTEM_LINK when there is no @href? The use of STATE_SYSTEM_LINKED on <a> elements without an @href also doesn't follow for me: Simple named anchors with no @href are not normally formatted, nor do they act, as hyperlinks. Note that <area> elements in IE use ROLE_SYSTEM_LINK. They also have STATE_SYSTEM_LINKED, again whether or not they have an @href. Related bug: <a href="show_bug.cgi?id=16761">Bug&nbsp;16761</a>. I'd suggest the folllowing mappings: <a> with @href exposed as ROLE_SYSTEM_LINK with STATE_SYSTEM_LINKED. <a> and <area> (with no @href) exposed as ROLE_SYSTEM_TEXT. [1] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd373608%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#ROLE_SYSTEM_LINK [2] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd373609%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#STATE_SYSTEM_LINKED 84894 2 jason 2013-03-24 01:20:05 +0000 Apologies for the HTML link tags. Meant to reference related bug 16761. 85000 3 surkov.alexander 2013-03-26 06:23:47 +0000 It sounds reasonable. If IE does it then it should be safe for Firefox do the same. I filed FF bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=854796 85590 4 surkov.alexander 2013-04-05 06:59:57 +0000 (In reply to comment #3) > It sounds reasonable. If IE does it then it should be safe for Firefox do > the same. I filed FF bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=854796 SYSTEM_TEXT doesn't work well because that means system_text accessible can be nested which is not expected by AT (see Jamie's answer in Firefox bug above). Example, <a>text leaf</a> will result into system_text - html:a system_text - text node Note, since html:a can contain anything then it means system_text can contain anything. Firefox uses IA2_ROLE_TEXT_FRAME for text containers, SYSTEM_TEXT for text leafs. 92192 5 surkov.alexander 2013-08-16 19:16:55 +0000 IA2 was addressed in bug 12703: IA2_ROLE_TEXT_FRAME 124801 6 cyns 2016-02-01 21:05:27 +0000 overcome by events. not an issue with UIA mapping.