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          <bug_id>15882</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2012-02-04 15:33:26 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Proposed editorial simplification to description of block formatting contexts in 9.4.1 (Issue 263)</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2012-12-04 00:53:51 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
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          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>CSS</product>
          <component>CSS Level 2</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>All</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Windows 3.1</op_sys>
          <bug_status>NEW</bug_status>
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          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
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          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Anton P">antonsforums</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Bert Bos">bert</assigned_to>
          
          
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    <who name="Anton P">antonsforums</who>
    <bug_when>2012-02-04 15:33:26 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Reported by Anton Prowse

This is Issue 263 (see below).

9.4.1 (Block formatting contexts) says:

   # Floats, absolutely positioned elements, block containers (such as
   # inline-blocks, table-cells, and table-captions) that are not block
   # boxes, and block boxes with &apos;overflow&apos; other than &apos;visible&apos; (except
   # when that value has been propagated to the viewport) establish new
   # block formatting contexts.

and 11.1.1 (Overflow: the &apos;overflow&apos; property) says:

   # UAs must apply the &apos;overflow&apos; property set on the root element to
   # the viewport. When the root element is an HTML &quot;HTML&quot; element or an
   # XHTML &quot;html&quot; element, and that element has an HTML &quot;BODY&quot; element
   # or an XHTML &quot;body&quot; element as a child, user agents must instead
   # apply the &apos;overflow&apos; property from the first such child element to
   # the viewport, if the value on the root element is &apos;visible&apos;. The
   # &apos;visible&apos; value when used for the viewport must be interpreted as
   # &apos;auto&apos;. The element from which the value is propagated must have a
   # used value for &apos;overflow&apos; of &apos;visible&apos;.

So in fact if a block box whose &apos;overflow&apos; other than &apos;visible&apos; has been 
propagated to the viewport then its used value is &apos;visible&apos; and so it&apos;s 
no longer under consideration is 9.4.1.  In other words, 9.4.1 can be 
clarified as follows:

s/block boxes with &apos;overflow&apos; other than &apos;visible&apos; (except when that 
value has been propagated to the viewport)/block boxes with used value 
of &apos;overflow&apos; other than &apos;visible&apos;/

This proposed change from (presumably) computed value to used value in
9.4.1 shouldn&apos;t cause any implementation difficulties because for all
block boxes whose &apos;overflow&apos; isn&apos;t propagated, the used value can only
be other than visible if the computed value is also other than visible. 
Hence under the proposed change, it&apos;s known whether the block box 
establishes a BFC as soon as the computed value is calculated, just as 
it is with the current spec.

I find 9.4.1 much easier to parse under this proposed change.

Conversation begins: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Jan/0077.html



Issue 263: http://wiki.csswg.org/spec/css2.1#issue-263

Summary
    Editorial simplification to 9.4.1 BFC root definition
URL
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Jan/0077.html
Resolution
    Assumed editorial.
Status
    Open. =errata= Deferred to Errata</thetext>
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    <commentid>63683</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Anton P">antonsforums</who>
    <bug_when>2012-02-04 16:09:13 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Related bug: Bug 15702</thetext>
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