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          <bug_id>15683</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2012-01-24 00:25:45 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>It is very tedious and almost impossible to properly display poetry that is typographically metered, specially in Arabic since it needs strict typographical alignments. The fact that Arabic readers almost always come across poetry on daily bases as they b</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2012-08-23 17:30:04 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>HTML5 spec</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>Other</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>other</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>WORKSFORME</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc>http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#top</bug_file_loc>
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          <keywords></keywords>
          <priority>P3</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter>contributor</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="This bug has no owner yet - up for the taking">dave.null</assigned_to>
          <cc>bhawkeslewis</cc>
    
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    <commentid>63027</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="">contributor</who>
    <bug_when>2012-01-24 00:25:45 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html
Multipage: http://www.whatwg.org/C#top
Complete: http://www.whatwg.org/c#top

Comment:
It is very tedious and almost impossible to properly display poetry that is
typographically metered, specially in Arabic since it needs strict
typographical alignments. The fact that Arabic readers almost always come
across poetry on daily bases as they brows the net makes this a requirement.
That would also almost be true for most languages which use poetic proverbs in
articles and writings to convey ideas and thoughts.
I can think of two solutions at this time to properly display this:
1. An HTML tag with attribute &lt;poetry stanza=&quot;value&quot;&gt;. From there, a CSS3
selector can easily refine the presentation form of the piece.
2. Basically the tedious way of using &lt;p&gt; and/or &lt;table&gt; and/or &lt;li&gt; and/or
&lt;span&gt; etc then applying a presentation formatting on selectors. Not an
eloquent way at all to say the least.

By introducing the new &lt;poetry&gt; tag and starting with &quot;stanza&quot; attribute, I am
sure that the tag will grow interest for further refinement and more
attributes will be introduced for the tag to be an efficient way of
representing that kind of literature in any kind of language.

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_7_2) AppleWebKit/534.52.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1.2 Safari/534.52.7</thetext>
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    <commentid>63038</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis">bhawkeslewis</who>
    <bug_when>2012-01-24 07:27:11 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to comment #0)
&gt; It is very tedious and almost impossible to properly display poetry that is
&gt; typographically metered, specially in Arabic since it needs strict
&gt; typographical alignments.

Can you provide an example? (You appear to be the originator of the phrase &quot;typographically metered&quot;.)

&gt; The fact that Arabic readers almost always come
&gt; across poetry on daily bases as they brows the net makes this a requirement.
&gt; That would also almost be true for most languages which use poetic proverbs in
&gt; articles and writings to convey ideas and thoughts.
&gt; I can think of two solutions at this time to properly display this:
&gt; 1. An HTML tag with attribute &lt;poetry stanza=&quot;value&quot;&gt;. From there, a CSS3
&gt; selector can easily refine the presentation form of the piece.
&gt; 2. Basically the tedious way of using &lt;p&gt; and/or &lt;table&gt; and/or &lt;li&gt; and/or
&gt; &lt;span&gt; etc then applying a presentation formatting on selectors. Not an
&gt; eloquent way at all to say the least.

What&apos;s wrong with using &lt;pre&gt; when you need &quot;strict typographical alignments&quot; for poetry?

http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/grouping-content.html#the-pre-element</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>70277</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="">contributor</who>
    <bug_when>2012-07-18 07:15:30 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>This bug was cloned to create bug 17905 as part of operation convergence.</thetext>
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    <commentid>72619</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Edward O&apos;Connor">eoconnor</who>
    <bug_when>2012-08-23 17:30:04 +0000</bug_when>
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Status: Rejected
Change Description: No change.
Rationale: In the absence of a reply to the questions in comment #1, &lt;pre&gt; seems like the solution.</thetext>
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