14429 2011-10-11 12:57:21 +0000 Named references: Point out HTML5's deviations from HTML4 2012-03-02 15:16:11 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified HTML WG HTML5 differences from HTML4 unspecified Other other RESOLVED FIXED http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/named-character-references#entity-rang P3 normal --- 1 contributor zcorpan annevk ian mike public-html-admin public-html-wg-issue-tracking xn--mlform-iua public-html-bugzilla oldest_to_newest 58046 0 contributor 2011-10-11 12:57:21 +0000 Specification: http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/ Multipage: http://www.whatwg.org/C#top Complete: http://www.whatwg.org/c#top Comment: Named character set references (http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/named-character-references.html) in these draft contains whole character set of html 4 specification (http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/sgml/entities.html). We can say that html 4 character set references is subset of html 5 character references. But following case breaks this rule. In html 4 &rang; and &lang is declared as below, <!ENTITY lang CDATA "&#9001;" -- left-pointing angle bracket = bra, U+2329 ISOtech --> <!-- lang is NOT the same character as U+003C 'less than' or U+2039 'single left-pointing angle quotation mark' --> <!ENTITY rang CDATA "&#9002;" -- right-pointing angle bracket = ket, U+232A ISOtech --> Contrary html 5 defines this characters as below, rang; U+027E9 lang; U+027E8 Except these two named references rest is same both in html 4 and html 5. regards, Yasin HINISLIOĞLU yaskil@gmail.com Posted from: 193.34.132.160 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1 58053 1 xn--mlform-iua 2011-10-11 15:02:02 +0000 The change in HTML5 is probably motivated by this letter: http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2007-July/012108.html But note that HTML4's behavour is (still) implemented in: * Opera 12 pre-beta * Internet Explorer 9 and down (but IE9's XML parser implements the HTML5 behaviour) * Firefox 3.6 and down * Oxygen (using a Xerces parser) * XMLmind XMLeditor (using a Xerces parser) * XMLlint's HTML parser * Text browsers: W3m, Links, elinks, Lynx * Lobo Java web browser (both in XHTML 1 mode and HTML mode) (current) HTML5 spec is implemented in: * Webkit (Safari 5.1 and Chrome current) * Firefox 4/Firefox 7 * The XML parser of IE9 (regardless of whether a DTD declares it) Unknown/Not tested: * Konqueror * IE10-beta These entities can be used to separate HTML5 parsers from other parsers ... 58054 2 1034 xn--mlform-iua 2011-10-11 15:06:00 +0000 Created attachment 1034 XHTML 1.0 test file 58055 3 1035 xn--mlform-iua 2011-10-11 15:07:02 +0000 Created attachment 1035 HTML test file 58057 4 xn--mlform-iua 2011-10-11 15:50:38 +0000 ( For convenience, the XHTML test file as data URI: <http://tinyurl.com/6gmedfy> ) * Edited the Summary: 1) Moved http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/named-character-references#entity-rang to the URL field 2) Deleted http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/sgml/entities.html 3) Added this, that shouldn't be too far from reporterer's intentions: "Named references: Point out HTML5's deviations from HTML4" Motivation: To avoid that authors and implementors assume that HTML5's named character references is a strict superset of HTML5, the deviatons from HTML4 should be pointed out via footnote or other text. PS: Supposedly, this deviation from HTML4/XHTML1 is defendable *only* because the old character is not too different from the new character 64913 5 zcorpan 2012-03-02 15:16:11 +0000 EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document: http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html Status: Accepted Change Description: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/html5/html4-differences/Overview.src.html.diff?r1=1.149;r2=1.150 Rationale: Concurred with reporter's comments 1034 2011-10-11 15:06:00 +0000 2011-10-11 15:08:40 +0000 XHTML 1.0 test file langrang-x.html.utf8.xhtml application/xml 818 xn--mlform-iua 77u/PD94bWwgdmVyc2lvbj0iMS4wIiBlbmNvZGluZz0idXRmLTgiPz4KPCFET0NUWVBFIGh0bWwg UFVCTElDICItLy9XM0MvL0RURCBYSFRNTCAxLjAgU3RyaWN0Ly9FTiIKICAgICJodHRwOi8vd3d3 LnczLm9yZy9UUi94aHRtbDEvRFREL3hodG1sMS1zdHJpY3QuZHRkIj4KPGh0bWwgeG1sbnM9Imh0 dHA6Ly93d3cudzMub3JnLzE5OTkveGh0bWwiIGxhbmc9ImVuIiB4bWw6bGFuZz0iZW4iID4KPGhl YWQ+PG1ldGEgaHR0cC1lcXVpdj0iQ29udGVudC1UeXBlIiBjb250ZW50PSJ0ZXh0L2h0bWw7IGNo YXJzZXQ9VVRGLTgiIC8+CiA8dGl0bGU+WDEgbmFtZWQgY2hhciByZWYgdGVzdDwvdGl0bGU+Cjxz dHlsZT4KLuKMqXtiYWNrZ3JvdW5kOmxpbWV9Ci7ijKp7YmFja2dyb3VuZDpncmVlbn0KPC9zdHls ZT4KPC9oZWFkPgo8Ym9keT4KPGRsPgo8ZHQ+bGFuZzwvZHQ+CjxkZCBjbGFzcz0iJmxhbmc7IiAg ID4mbGFuZzsgICAgKCZhbXA7cmFuZzsgLSB0ZXN0KTwvZGQ+CjxkZCBjbGFzcz0iJiN4MjMyOTsi ICA+JiN4MjMyOTsgICgmYW1wO3gyMzI5OyAtIEhUTUw0KTwvZGQ+CjxkZCBjbGFzcz0iJiN4MDI3 RTg7Ij4mI3gwMjdFODsgKCZhbXA7eDAyN0U4OyAtIEhUTUw1KTwvZGQ+CjxkdD5yYW5nPC9kdD4K PGRkIGNsYXNzPSImcmFuZzsiPiZyYW5nOyAoJmFtcDtyYW5nOyAtIHRlc3QpPC9kZD4KPGRkIGNs YXNzPSImI3gyMzJBOyI+JiN4MjMyQTsgKCZhbXA7eDIzMkE7IC0gSFRNTDQpPC9kZD4KPGRkIGNs YXNzPSImI3gwMjdFOTsiID4mI3gwMjdFOTsgKCZhbXA7eDAyN0U5OyAtIEhUTUw1KTwvZGQ+Cjwv ZGw+CjwvYm9keT4KPC9odG1sPgo= 1035 2011-10-11 15:07:02 +0000 2011-10-11 15:07:02 +0000 HTML test file langrang.html.utf8.html text/html 635 xn--mlform-iua 77u/PCFET0NUWVBFIGh0bWw+CjxodG1sIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8xOTk5L3ho dG1sIiBsYW5nPSJlbiIgeG1sOmxhbmc9ImVuIiA+CjxoZWFkPjxtZXRhIGNoYXJzZXQ9IlVURi04 Ii8+CiA8dGl0bGU+SDUgbmFtZWQgY2hhciByZWYgdGVzdDwvdGl0bGU+CjxzdHlsZT4KLuKMqXti YWNrZ3JvdW5kOmxpbWV9Ci7ijKp7YmFja2dyb3VuZDpncmVlbn0KPC9zdHlsZT4KPC9oZWFkPgo8 Ym9keT4KPGRsPgo8ZHQ+bGFuZzwvZHQ+CjxkZCBjbGFzcz0iJmxhbmc7IiAgID4mbGFuZzsgICAg KCZhbXA7cmFuZzsgLSB0ZXN0KTwvZGQ+CjxkZCBjbGFzcz0iJiN4MjMyOTsiICA+JiN4MjMyOTsg ICgmYW1wO3gyMzI5OyAtIEhUTUw0KTwvZGQ+CjxkZCBjbGFzcz0iJiN4MDI3RTg7Ij4mI3gwMjdF ODsgKCZhbXA7eDAyN0U4OyAtIEhUTUw1KTwvZGQ+CjxkdD5yYW5nPC9kdD4KPGRkIGNsYXNzPSIm cmFuZzsiPiZyYW5nOyAoJmFtcDtyYW5nOyAtIHRlc3QpPC9kZD4KPGRkIGNsYXNzPSImI3gyMzJB OyI+JiN4MjMyQTsgKCZhbXA7eDIzMkE7IC0gSFRNTDQpPC9kZD4KPGRkIGNsYXNzPSImI3gwMjdF OTsiID4mI3gwMjdFOTsgKCZhbXA7eDAyN0U5OyAtIEhUTUw1KTwvZGQ+CjwvZGw+CjwvYm9keT4K PC9odG1sPgo=