14058 2011-09-07 13:01:48 +0000 Apparently some people are reading this to mean that it's wrong to refer to section elements in CSS selectors: http://www.stubbornella.org/content/2011/09/06/style-headings-using-html5-sections/ — please clarify to make it obvious that the discouragemen 2011-10-19 22:46:52 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified HTML WG HTML5 spec unspecified Other other RESOLVED FIXED http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#use-div-for-wrappers P3 normal --- 1 contributor ian ian mike public-html-admin public-html-wg-issue-tracking Smylers spam public-html-bugzilla oldest_to_newest 56462 0 contributor 2011-09-07 13:01:48 +0000 Specification: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/sections.html Multipage: http://www.whatwg.org/C#use-div-for-wrappers Complete: http://www.whatwg.org/c#use-div-for-wrappers Comment: Apparently some people are reading this to mean that it's wrong to refer to section elements in CSS selectors: http://www.stubbornella.org/content/2011/09/06/style-headings-using-html5-sect ions/ — please clarify to make it obvious that the discouragement is limited to when a <section> element is used only for styling purposes, for example by adding “only” after “needed”. Posted from: 2a02:4e8:1:1:218:8bff:feba:5a34 by Smylers@stripey.com User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:5.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/5.0 56494 1 spam 2011-09-07 20:15:55 +0000 As I quoted in my article, the spec is very clear: "The section element is not a generic container element. When an element is needed for styling purposes or as a convenience for scripting, authors are encouraged to use the div element instead. " Which I read to mean that section elements should not be added simply to achieve a particular style. They should only be used when semantically relevant. This is why I asserted in the article that we need to structure our CSS in a way that doesn't force sections to be misused, like in the anti-pattern I shared: https://github.com/cboone/hypsometric-css/blob/master/html5/html5-defaults.css#L426 IMO, the spec is pretty clear. I wouldn't change the wording. 58456 2 ian 2011-10-19 22:44:56 +0000 EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document: http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html Status: Accepted Change Description: see diff given below Rationale: I've tried to make minimal changes to address the apparent confusion. I added an explicit example, too. Hopefully that's enough. 58457 3 contributor 2011-10-19 22:46:52 +0000 Checked in as WHATWG revision r6704. Check-in comment: Tweak some text and add an example to try to clarify some confusion. http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=6703&to=6704