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    <bug>
          <bug_id>13649</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2011-08-03 23:15:48 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Expose SVG &lt;title&gt; and &lt;desc&gt; to AAPIs</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2011-08-04 12:08:17 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>SVG</product>
          <component>Accessibility Support</component>
          <version>SVG 2.0</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Windows XP</op_sys>
          <bug_status>NEW</bug_status>
          <resolution></resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc>http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-html5-20110525/the-map-element.html#svg-0</bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>a11y, a11ytf</keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>Working Draft</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Michael Cooper">cooper</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Doug Schepers">schepers</assigned_to>
          <cc>annevk</cc>
    
    <cc>cam</cc>
    
    <cc>laura.lee.carlson</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-a11y</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-admin</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-wg-issue-tracking</cc>
          
          <qa_contact name="SVG Public List">www-svg</qa_contact>

      

      

      

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          <long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>52282</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Michael Cooper">cooper</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-03 23:15:48 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>[Filing on behalf of John Gardner]

We need eventually to define how the root-level &lt;title&gt; and &lt;desc&gt; tags are exposed to AT agents in an HTML document. It is not yet clear how the &lt;desc&gt; element should be exposed, but the &lt;title&gt; element is pretty obvious. The root &lt;title&gt; element should be exposed to AT agents exactly as the &lt;img&gt; element&apos;s &quot;alt&quot; attribute is exposed. However, an &quot;aria-label&quot; attribute on the &lt;svg&gt; element should take precedence.

HTML Task Force in discussion is unclear in this case whether it&apos;s a question
for the HTML spec or the SVG spec, since this is &quot;inside&quot; the SVG element.
Filing this bug to meet deadline but will need to figure this out.</thetext>
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    <commentid>52284</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Cameron McCormack">cam</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-03 23:36:23 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to comment #0)
&gt; We need eventually to define how the root-level &lt;title&gt; and &lt;desc&gt; tags are
&gt; exposed to AT agents in an HTML document. It is not yet clear how the &lt;desc&gt;
&gt; element should be exposed, but the &lt;title&gt; element is pretty obvious. The root
&gt; &lt;title&gt; element should be exposed to AT agents exactly as the &lt;img&gt; element&apos;s
&gt; &quot;alt&quot; attribute is exposed.

Is that also the same as how an &lt;img&gt; element&apos;s title=&quot;&quot; attribute is exposed?  Because I think of SVG &lt;title&gt; as more like title=&quot;&quot; than alt=&quot;&quot;.

&gt; However, an &quot;aria-label&quot; attribute on the &lt;svg&gt;
&gt; element should take precedence.
&gt; 
&gt; HTML Task Force in discussion is unclear in this case whether it&apos;s a question
&gt; for the HTML spec or the SVG spec, since this is &quot;inside&quot; the SVG element.
&gt; Filing this bug to meet deadline but will need to figure this out.

I think this should be defined by SVG, but we currently do not.  SVG 2 or a separate specification will define default roles etc. for SVG content.  HTML can then defer to that.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>54109</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Michael[tm] Smith">mike</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-04 05:36:10 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>mass-move component to LC1</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>54158</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Anne">annevk</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-04 08:46:29 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Defining the semantics of SVG is out of scope for HTML. Re-assigning to SVG.</thetext>
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