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    <bug>
          <bug_id>13639</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2011-08-03 20:51:17 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>CSS2 System Colors Should Be Recognized</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2016-02-26 23:39:13 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>HTML a11y Task Force</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>Other</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>All</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>WONTFIX</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>a11y, a11ytf</keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Janina Sajka">janina</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Charles McCathieNevile">chaals</assigned_to>
          <cc>chaals</cc>
    
    <cc>cooper</cc>
    
    <cc>dbaron</cc>
    
    <cc>eoconnor</cc>
    
    <cc>faulkner.steve</cc>
    
    <cc>laura.lee.carlson</cc>
    
    <cc>lwatson</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-a11y</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-admin</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-wg-issue-tracking</cc>
    
    <cc>robin</cc>
          
          <qa_contact name="This bug has no owner yet - up for the taking">dave.null</qa_contact>

      

      

      

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    <commentid>52247</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Janina Sajka">janina</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-03 20:51:17 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>The HTML spec, http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-html5-20110525/common-microsyntaxes.html#colors, should explicitly
provide for support of CSS2 System Colors when users require them. This is a long standing
accessibility concern, e.g. see:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2009AprJun/0155.html
http://www.w3.org/2009/04/15-pf-minutes.html#action05]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2008JulSep/0484.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2008JulSep/0404.html</thetext>
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    <commentid>52249</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="L. David Baron (Mozilla)">dbaron</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-03 20:59:03 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>I&apos;m against doing this for the reasons described in:
http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2010-May/026449.html

Further, specification of colors in HTML rather than CSS is a legacy feature; CSS is the recommended way of specifying colors, and I don&apos;t think we should go adding additional capabilities to this feature that exists only for compatibility with old content.</thetext>
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    <commentid>52254</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Anne">annevk</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-03 21:15:37 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>EDITOR&apos;S RESPONSE: This is an Editor&apos;s Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document: &lt;http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html&gt;.

Status: Rejected
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale: Simple colors are used by &lt;input type=color&gt; for which system colors do not make sense. The other type of colors supported is a legacy feature as comment 1 points out and authors cannot use it anymore. They have to use CSS, which supports system colors.</thetext>
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    <commentid>53695</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Michael[tm] Smith">mike</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-04 05:16:26 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>mass-move component to LC1</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>81922</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="Robin Berjon">robin</who>
    <bug_when>2013-01-22 11:17:05 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Michal, can you please include comments when reopening? It&apos;s difficult to track changes otherwise.</thetext>
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    <commentid>81923</commentid>
    <comment_count>5</comment_count>
    <who name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</who>
    <bug_when>2013-01-22 11:23:04 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to comment #4)
&gt; Michael, can you please include comments when reopening? It&apos;s difficult to
&gt; track changes otherwise.

Discussed at last weeks a11y taskforce meet http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-html-a11y-minutes.html#item03

re-opened (to keep track) and kicked back to PF to review and discuss with CSS WG</thetext>
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    <commentid>81924</commentid>
    <comment_count>6</comment_count>
    <who name="Robin Berjon">robin</who>
    <bug_when>2013-01-22 11:27:16 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to comment #5)
&gt; (In reply to comment #4)
&gt; &gt; Michael, can you please include comments when reopening? It&apos;s difficult to
&gt; &gt; track changes otherwise.
&gt; 
&gt; Discussed at last weeks a11y taskforce meet
&gt; http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-html-a11y-minutes.html#item03
&gt; 
&gt; re-opened (to keep track) and kicked back to PF to review and discuss with
&gt; CSS WG

Oops, just saw my Michal -&gt; Michael typo — sorry!

Thanks Steve. Just for the record: I don&apos;t mind bugs being reopened, but it really helps if there&apos;s a comment indicating why. Otherwise it&apos;s just confusing to use.</thetext>
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    <commentid>125281</commentid>
    <comment_count>7</comment_count>
    <who name="Charles McCathieNevile">chaals</who>
    <bug_when>2016-02-26 23:39:13 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Some subset of system colours are implemented, but some others are deliberately implemented as something else. The colours themselves have been deprecated, in part to stop people from using them to produce phishing attacks.

It seems unlikely that these will get more complete implementation any time soon, and even documenting the behaviour in detail seems counter-productive.</thetext>
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