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          <bug_id>13534</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2011-08-02 22:31:27 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>2.1.4 DOM Core versus DOM L3 Events reference</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2011-09-20 15:21:06 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>LC1 HTML5 spec</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Windows NT</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>WONTFIX</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>a11y</keywords>
          <priority>P3</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Travis Leithead [MSFT]">travil</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</assigned_to>
          <cc>annevk</cc>
    
    <cc>ayg</cc>
    
    <cc>cooper</cc>
    
    <cc>eoconnor</cc>
    
    <cc>ian</cc>
    
    <cc>jrossi</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-admin</cc>
    
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    <commentid>52020</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Travis Leithead [MSFT]">travil</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-02 22:31:27 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>DOM L3 Events has appropriate descriptions for each of these behaviors, as well as a more complete discussion of other event-related information. Also, given DOM L3 Events is in a more more stable point along the REC track, it makes more sense to reference it. Referencing completed, stable standards is important for Microsoft and our customers (who build on top of our software).

Existing Text:
In the contexts of events, the terms fire and dispatch are used as defined in the DOM Core specification: firing an event means to create and dispatch it, and dispatching an event means to follow the steps that propagate the event through the tree. The term trusted event is used to refer to events that have the trusted flag set. [DOMCORE]

Suggested change: 
Reference to DOM L3 Events here instead of Web DOM Core.</thetext>
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    <commentid>52091</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Anne">annevk</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-03 05:39:20 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>DOM  3 Events does not define the same algorithms and does not really have the same level of quality. I still think DOM 3 Events should just drop the bits on the event model and rename itself to UI events or some such.</thetext>
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    <commentid>52104</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Jacob Rossi [MSFT]">jrossi</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-03 05:54:00 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to comment #1)
&gt; DOM  3 Events does not define the same algorithms and does not really have the
&gt; same level of quality. I still think DOM 3 Events should just drop the bits on
&gt; the event model and rename itself to UI events or some such.

I firmly believe DOM Core should not be specifying the event model while D3E continues to make progress towards Recommendation status. If you do not believe D3E is of sufficient quality, then you should submit additional feedback to the working group. Having two different specifications of the event model in competition is contrary to progress and makes it difficult for implementors and end developers to target an interoperable model.</thetext>
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    <commentid>52112</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Anne">annevk</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-03 06:06:20 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Still waiting for replies to feedback I gave in March. DOM Core is making progress towards Recommendation too, so I am not sure that argument makes sense.</thetext>
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    <commentid>53781</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="Michael[tm] Smith">mike</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-04 05:17:18 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>mass-move component to LC1</thetext>
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    <commentid>55622</commentid>
    <comment_count>5</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-22 22:25:41 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>EDITOR&apos;S RESPONSE: This is an Editor&apos;s Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:
   http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html

Status: Rejected
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale: I think DOM Core is a superior reference to DOM Level 3 Events.</thetext>
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    <commentid>57035</commentid>
    <comment_count>6</comment_count>
    <who name="Michael Cooper">cooper</who>
    <bug_when>2011-09-20 15:21:06 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Bug triage sub-team not sure if this is an accessibility issue, will ask HTML A11Y TF.</thetext>
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