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    <bug>
          <bug_id>13023</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2011-06-23 09:24:58 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>removing CSS outline bad for accessibility</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2012-04-20 02:55:47 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>LC1 HTML5 spec</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Windows NT</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>a11y, WGDecision</keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</assigned_to>
          <cc>ian</cc>
    
    <cc>jfoliot</cc>
    
    <cc>laura.lee.carlson</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-a11y</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-admin</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-wg-issue-tracking</cc>
    
    <cc>rubys</cc>
          
          <qa_contact name="HTML WG Bugzilla archive list">public-html-bugzilla</qa_contact>

      

      

      

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          <long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>50147</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</who>
    <bug_when>2011-06-23 09:24:58 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>the spec currently encourages authors to hide outlines on focusable elements:

&quot;...if you find the focus ring unsightly. Instead, use a CSS rule to override the &apos;outline&apos; property.

For example, to hide the outline from links, you could use:

:link:focus, :visited:focus { outline: none; }&quot;
http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/editing.html#element-level-focus-apis

recommend removing or rewording as the removal of CSS outlines is a well known usability/accessibility issue.

references:
http://webaim.org/blog/plague-of-outline-0/
http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/201104/keyboard_accessibility_again/</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>52512</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Michael[tm] Smith">mike</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-04 05:02:09 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>mass-moved component to LC1</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>54523</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-10 01:06:22 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>EDITOR&apos;S RESPONSE: This is an Editor&apos;s Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:
   http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html

Status: Rejected
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale: Authors want to do this. If they&apos;re going to do it anyway, let&apos;s at least push them towards doing it the way that is trivially made accessible rather than what they do now (which is to move the focus around).</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>62659</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</who>
    <bug_when>2012-01-13 10:03:13 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>
escalating to issue https://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/193
issue name: Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>66334</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="Sam Ruby">rubys</who>
    <bug_when>2012-04-02 16:25:07 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Decision:

  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0786.html

Change Proposal:

  http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/outlinenone</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>66880</commentid>
    <comment_count>5</comment_count>
    <who name="Sam Ruby">rubys</who>
    <bug_when>2012-04-20 02:55:47 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=7057&amp;to=7058</thetext>
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