12775 2011-05-25 07:54:45 +0000 Suggestion for html.next and iframes 2011-08-04 05:06:01 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified HTML WG LC1 HTML5 spec unspecified Other All RESOLVED NEEDSINFO P3 normal --- 1 mike ian ayg mike public-html-admin public-html-wg-issue-tracking public-html-bugzilla oldest_to_newest 48797 0 mike 2011-05-25 07:54:45 +0000 public-html-comments posting from: "Marke Johnston" <Marke@omnibot.info> http://www.w3.org/mid/FC62CA8F1B1FA246B2DB9C427F3F3CB7B205@84slp71.AFRHLLC.local This seems the best mail list for the general public to make suggestions. I maintain one fairly simple commercial website I authored and designed. I have dabbled in html for over ten years. for my current rennovation, I did find iframes to be the best viewing solution; and struggle with the same bookmarking shortcomings that perpetuates the 'frames are evil' meme. Most specifically, I wish I could transmit via email links that would load my iframe containing page in a specific way. My suggestion: an additional identifying tag could be added to each A href that has a target= statement that extra tag would contain a short and unique (example 2 alpha digits) code identifying the link selected. as an example, any link that contains target="I1" would have also named="aa" where the alpha code is meant to be specific to each ahref & target combo on the page a different link on the same page would have target="I1" named="ab" for the second link... then browser specifications would be set to recognize codes and append them to the end of urls, much in the manner of asp pages with arguments passed to the server-- but read by the static browser-- and further, if links caused the iframe contents to change and names were set- the displayed address url would change to match so a website would initially be at a page of http://www.example.com/index.htm but if an end user selected a link (the first target link in my example) that put name AA in iframe I1-- the browser would load the subframe, and then automatically append to appropriate code to the url displayed http://www.example.com/index.htm?i1=aa or if I had two frames in the page, I might see http://www.example.com/index.htm?i1=aa?i2=ca then by whatever means necessary, I can distribute, bookmark, and rename frames and ensure the correct linking Browsers- when loading of such a bookmark, would interpret the html, searching for those unique names, and load the target frames as if they had been clicked. I have no dedication to my choice of names - I just want to send out links that will load the page as I wish it. 50284 1 ayg 2011-06-24 20:56:27 +0000 EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the Editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the Tracker Issue; or you may create a Tracker Issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document: http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html Status: Additional Information Needed Change Description: no spec change Rationale: The proposed solution only works if the parent page and the iframe are cooperating closely. If that's the case, why don't you just have an onbeforeunload handler on all the pages in the iframe that alters the URL bar using pushState()? Alternatively, why don't you just not use frames at all here, and include everything in the same page? You have to explain your use-case better. 53016 2 mike 2011-08-04 05:06:01 +0000 mass-moved component to LC1