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    <bug>
          <bug_id>12726</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2011-05-23 21:08:41 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Document should be on the Note-track</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2015-01-29 19:38:25 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>LC1 alt techniques (editor: Steven Faulkner)</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Linux</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>a11y, a11y_text-alt</keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Sam Ruby">rubys</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Shane McCarron">shane</assigned_to>
          <cc>eoconnor</cc>
    
    <cc>faulkner.steve</cc>
    
    <cc>lachlan.hunt</cc>
    
    <cc>laura.lee.carlson</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
    <cc>mjs</cc>
    
    <cc>Paul.Cotton</cc>
    
    <cc>philipj</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-a11y</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-admin</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-wg-issue-tracking</cc>
    
    <cc>shane</cc>
          
          <qa_contact name="HTML WG Bugzilla archive list">public-html-bugzilla</qa_contact>

      

      

      

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          <long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>48709</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Sam Ruby">rubys</who>
    <bug_when>2011-05-23 21:08:41 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Bug entered on behalf of Lachlan Hunt:

I object to this document being on the Rec-track. These are
guidelines, and as such, they should be non-normative descriptions
referring to the normative requirements in the HTML specification
itself. If this document is to be published, it should instead be
on the Note-track.

---

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2011May/0051.html</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>48974</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Paul Cotton">Paul.Cotton</who>
    <bug_when>2011-05-31 19:48:23 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>I do NOT believe the Normativity of a specification is necesarily the test of whether it should be on the Recommendation track or not.  The real test for me is if the owning WG plans to maintain the specification or not.

See Section 7.5 &quot;Ending Work on a Technical Report&quot;:
http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/process.html#tr-end 

For example the XML Schema Primer is a W3C Recommendation but obviously that specification does not contain normative text. 

See XML Schema Primer 2nd Edition as proof that the XML Schema WG actively maintained this specification:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-xmlschema-0-20041028/ 

On the other hand the WS-Policy Primer was published as a WG Note since that WG explicitly decided it did NOT want to maintain the specification:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/NOTE-ws-policy-primer-20071112/ 

/paulc</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>49144</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</who>
    <bug_when>2011-06-03 09:36:42 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to comment #0)
&gt; Bug entered on behalf of Lachlan Hunt:
&gt; 
&gt; I object to this document being on the Rec-track. These are
&gt; guidelines, and as such, they should be non-normative descriptions
&gt; referring to the normative requirements in the HTML specification
&gt; itself. If this document is to be published, it should instead be
&gt; on the Note-track.
&gt; 
&gt; ---
&gt; 
&gt; http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2011May/0051.html

As noted, there is no such distinction such as a note track and rec track based on whether a document contains normative requirements or not, it is appropriate to be considered a recommendation if there is an intention that the document is to be evolved over time, rather than written and then left to go stale. The alt spec is definitley a document that is written to provide current best practice and authoring requirements based on the realities of browser and assistive technology support for HTML features and as such will require updating on a regular basis and that is the intention.</thetext>
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    <commentid>49166</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Sam Ruby">rubys</who>
    <bug_when>2011-06-03 17:36:23 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Lachlan, as this has been RESOLVED WONTFIX, I encourage you to either:

a) Mark this as TrackerIssue so that we can proceed to call for proposals.

b) Voluntarily withdraw the corresponding Formal Objection.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>53214</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="Michael[tm] Smith">mike</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-04 05:08:37 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>mass-move component to LC1</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>82579</commentid>
    <comment_count>5</comment_count>
    <who name="Sam Ruby">rubys</who>
    <bug_when>2013-02-05 15:46:28 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Reopening based on http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0002.html .  Steve: feel free to re-resolve if/when you feel the document is ready to proceed.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>117598</commentid>
    <comment_count>6</comment_count>
    <who name="Shane McCarron">shane</who>
    <bug_when>2015-01-29 19:38:25 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>This document is now Note Track.</thetext>
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