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    <bug>
          <bug_id>12578</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2011-05-01 12:28:51 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>The note says: &quot;Omitting an element&apos;s start tag does not mean the element is not present; it is implied, but it is still there.&quot; 1.) Before the word &quot;start tag&quot; should be an &quot;optional&quot;, because in many (or all) other cases omitting the start tag results i</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2011-08-04 05:16:23 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>LC1 HTML5 spec</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>Other</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>other</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc>http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#optional-tags</bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords></keywords>
          <priority>P3</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter>contributor</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</assigned_to>
          <cc>ian</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
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    <commentid>47832</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="">contributor</who>
    <bug_when>2011-05-01 12:28:51 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Specification: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/syntax.html
Section: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#optional-tags

Comment:
The note says: &quot;Omitting an element&apos;s start tag does not mean the element is
not present; it is implied, but it is still there.&quot; 1.) Before the word &quot;start
tag&quot; should be an &quot;optional&quot;, because in many (or all) other cases omitting
the start tag results in an element not being present even if the appropriate
end tag is present. 2.) Before the word &quot;implied&quot; should be an &quot;only&quot;, because
the critical information is not that an element exist *although* it is
implied, but that an element exists even if it is *only* implied.

Posted from: 92.225.90.210
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_7; de-de) AppleWebKit/533.21.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.5 Safari/533.21.1</thetext>
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    <commentid>51597</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2011-07-28 01:23:20 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>EDITOR&apos;S RESPONSE: This is an Editor&apos;s Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:
   http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html

Status: Partially Accepted
Change Description: see diff given below
Rationale: I&apos;m not sure I agree with #2. I don&apos;t really understand what &quot;only&quot; would mean there. With #1, &quot;optional&quot; doesn&apos;t seem to be defined in this context, and so doesn&apos;t help any more than &quot;omit&quot;. I tried to clarify it though.</thetext>
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    <commentid>51598</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="">contributor</who>
    <bug_when>2011-07-28 01:23:39 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Checked in as WHATWG revision r6335.
Check-in comment: clarification
http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=6334&amp;to=6335</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>53691</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Michael[tm] Smith">mike</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-04 05:16:23 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>mass-move component to LC1</thetext>
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