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    <bug>
          <bug_id>11486</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2010-12-06 22:51:01 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Remove rel=archives in favor of rel=index. They are extremely similar and not that useful to have separately.</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2012-10-16 17:38:14 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>LC1 HTML5 spec</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>Other</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>other</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>WORKSFORME</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc>http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#rel-archives</bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords></keywords>
          <priority>P4</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter>contributor</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Edward O&apos;Connor">eoconnor</assigned_to>
          <cc>annevk</cc>
    
    <cc>eoconnor</cc>
    
    <cc>ian</cc>
    
    <cc>julian.reschke</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
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    <commentid>43107</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="">contributor</who>
    <bug_when>2010-12-06 22:51:01 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Specification: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/complete.html
Section: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#rel-archives

Comment:
Remove rel=archives in favor of rel=index. They are extremely similar and not
that useful to have separately.

Posted from: 95.34.115.33 by annevk@opera.com</thetext>
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    <commentid>43109</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Edward O&apos;Connor">hober0</who>
    <bug_when>2010-12-06 23:09:46 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>If you&apos;re going to remove one of them, remove rel=index. rel=archives has far more real-world usage: http://blog.unto.net/web/a-survey-of-rel-values-on-the-web/</thetext>
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    <commentid>43110</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Julian Reschke">julian.reschke</who>
    <bug_when>2010-12-06 23:10:16 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Disagreed.

HTML5 currently breaks rel=index (I think this is ISSUE-118). Once it gets back it&apos;s correct definition, the situation will look different.

That being said, I don&apos;t see much overlap even given the current definitions.</thetext>
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    <commentid>43111</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Anne">annevk</who>
    <bug_when>2010-12-06 23:11:55 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Good point. My site uses rel=archives once again. For as long as I think these are useful to use, anyway.</thetext>
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    <commentid>44077</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2011-01-11 00:52:29 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(punting pending issue resolution)</thetext>
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    <commentid>46166</commentid>
    <comment_count>5</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2011-03-02 01:06:23 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>EDITOR&apos;S RESPONSE: This is an Editor&apos;s Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:
   http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html

Status: Partially Accepted
Change Description: see diff given below
Rationale: I removed it entirely, based on the precedent the chairs established for rel=index.</thetext>
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    <commentid>46167</commentid>
    <comment_count>6</comment_count>
    <who name="">contributor</who>
    <bug_when>2011-03-02 01:06:39 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Checked in as WHATWG revision r5925.
Check-in comment: Drop support for rel=archives and any related synonyms.
http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=5924&amp;to=5925</thetext>
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    <commentid>46617</commentid>
    <comment_count>7</comment_count>
    <who name="Julian Reschke">julian.reschke</who>
    <bug_when>2011-03-10 18:29:09 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>I&apos;m unhappy with the way this change was applied (in the context of resolving an unrelated WG decision, 128), and thus would appreciate if we confirm that this change actually increases WG consensus.

Thoughts:

- Anne raised this then later changed his mind (see comment 3).

- Both Edward and I recommended to keep it.

- Mike Smith registered the link relation with IANA in good faith; removing it from the spec at this stage requires a change to the registry.

- I don&apos;t believe any good reason was given for the removal that wouldn&apos;t also apply to many other link relations in the spec (such as &quot;external&quot;, just to name one).</thetext>
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    <commentid>46628</commentid>
    <comment_count>8</comment_count>
    <who name="Anne">annevk</who>
    <bug_when>2011-03-11 08:07:31 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>I only changed my mind insofar that removing &quot;index&quot; instead as suggested in comment 1 was fine with me too. However, that was only insofar I cared about these values to begin with, which is not much. They are removed from my site.</thetext>
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    <commentid>48208</commentid>
    <comment_count>9</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2011-05-06 19:42:58 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Since the request here is to check if we have consensus, reassigning to a chair.</thetext>
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    <commentid>52393</commentid>
    <comment_count>10</comment_count>
    <who name="Michael[tm] Smith">mike</who>
    <bug_when>2011-08-04 05:00:59 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>mass-moved component to LC1</thetext>
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    <commentid>60187</commentid>
    <comment_count>11</comment_count>
    <who name="Michael[tm] Smith">mike</who>
    <bug_when>2011-11-20 14:36:45 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Note comment #9:
&gt; Since the request here is to check if we have consensus, reassigning to a
&gt; chair.

So this bug is waiting on action by the chairs.</thetext>
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    <commentid>76417</commentid>
    <comment_count>12</comment_count>
    <who name="Edward O&apos;Connor">eoconnor</who>
    <bug_when>2012-10-16 17:38:14 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>EDITOR&apos;S RESPONSE: This is an Editor&apos;s Response to your comment. If you are
satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If
you have additional information and would like the Editor to reconsider, please
reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML
Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest
title and text for the Tracker Issue; or you may create a Tracker Issue
yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:

   http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html

Status: Rejected
Change Description: No spec change.
Rationale: Both rel values were dropped from the spec long ago.</thetext>
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