11217 2010-11-04 12:35:37 +0000 Footnotes I find it hard to believe, that even today, HTML does not include a specific element for including notes within the text. Notes are necessary for the full argumentation in the text without still belonging to the main text itself, and they includ 2011-08-04 05:04:05 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified HTML WG LC1 HTML Canvas 2D Context unspecified Other other RESOLVED WONTFIX http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#top P3 normal --- 1 contributor ian ian jackalmage jbdoug2 mike public-html-admin public-html-wg-issue-tracking public-html-bugzilla oldest_to_newest 42116 0 contributor 2010-11-04 12:35:37 +0000 Specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html Section: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/complete.html#top Comment: Footnotes I find it hard to believe, that even today, HTML does not include a specific element for including notes within the text. Notes are necessary for the full argumentation in the text without still belonging to the main text itself, and they include citations to sources and to the works of other authors, In traditional publishing, these are usually reproduced as footnotes or endnotes, occasionally even as margin notes. The note itself is a _structural_ element, independent of its typographical representation, and as such definitively would need a _structural_ element of its own. In the section "Footnotes" there are examples of how to represent notes usign HTML. These examples are all focused on the way, how to produce visual effects that look like footnotes/endnotes/margin notes. None of these examples goes to any way of solving the problem of presenting notes _structurally_ within a HTML document. Footnotes are not going to disappear just because IT specialists do not use them. A major part of the legal, social and humanistic professions do use them, and the lack of a corresponding HTML element will have a strong adverse effect on the useability of HTML as a document representation format. Best Wishes, Harri Kiiskinen Posted from: 130.232.37.20 42120 1 jackalmage 2010-11-04 13:35:36 +0000 <figure> can be used to mark up a footnote. The display of footnotes is a CSS issue, not an HTML issue. 42194 2 jbdoug2 2010-11-05 16:25:17 +0000 (In reply to comment #0) > Specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html > Section: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/complete.html#top > > Comment: > Footnotes Are you asking for an element such as <note> to specifically identify content as a footnote, etc? Otherwise, a note can be placed in a <p> or <li> element in an <aside> section. It seems to me that aside is a better choice than figure. <aside class="footnote"> <ol> <li value="1">First footnote.</li> <li value="2">Second footnote.</li> </ol> </aside> I agree that a note is a structural aspect of a document, but am not sure if a separate element is required. There are not elements for chapter or sentence. Doug Jones 43601 3 ian 2010-12-29 08:14:09 +0000 EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document: http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html Status: Rejected Change Description: no spec change Rationale: The spec lists a variety of ways of including inline notes already. It's not clear why they're not sufficient. 52765 4 mike 2011-08-04 05:04:05 +0000 mass-move component to LC1