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    <bug>
          <bug_id>10777</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2010-09-27 17:59:19 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>user agent assignment of modifier keys subset of accesskey processing subset</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2016-02-23 15:49:17 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>pre-LC1 HTML5 spec (editor: Ian Hickson)</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>All</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>All</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>a11y</keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>LC</target_milestone>
          <dependson>10888</dependson>
    
    <dependson>23613</dependson>
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Gregory J. Rosmaita">oedipus</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</assigned_to>
          <cc>chaals</cc>
    
    <cc>ian</cc>
    
    <cc>joshue.oconnor</cc>
    
    <cc>laura.lee.carlson</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
    <cc>oedipus</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-a11y</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-admin</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-wg-issue-tracking</cc>
          
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    <commentid>39595</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Gregory J. Rosmaita">oedipus</who>
    <bug_when>2010-09-27 17:59:19 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>as part of the substeps to run for each value in keys, in the order the 
tokens appeared in the attribute&apos;s value:

QUOTE
         3. If the user agent can find a combination of modifier keys
            that, with the key that corresponds to the value given in the
            attribute, can be used as a shortcut key, then the user agent
            may assign that combination of keys as the element&apos;s
            assigned access key and abort these steps.
UNQUOTE


what does this subset mean?  it should precisely address the following:

1. does this subset require a user agent to automatically determine 
a modifier or combination of modifier keys?

2. if so, is this so as to avoid conflicts with application and 
operating system hotkeys?

3. if the user agent automatically determines a modifier or combination
of modifier keys, how will this information be conveyed to the user

4. does the user retain control over which modifier key or combination
of modifier keys the user agent uses?</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>39682</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2010-09-28 07:03:38 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>&gt; 1. does this subset require a user agent to automatically determine 
&gt; a modifier or combination of modifier keys?

No. If it did, it would say so.

&gt; 2. if so, is this so as to avoid conflicts with application and 
&gt; operating system hotkeys?

n/a

&gt; 3. if the user agent automatically determines a modifier or combination
&gt; of modifier keys, how will this information be conveyed to the user

This is discussed in other parts of the specification.

&gt; 4. does the user retain control over which modifier key or combination
&gt; of modifier keys the user agent uses?

The user and user agent in concert do so, yes.


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Status: Rejected
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale: As far as I can tell this is all addressed already.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>41769</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Joshue O Connor">joshue.oconnor</who>
    <bug_when>2010-10-26 16:00:03 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>The HTML A11y Bug Triage Subteam decided that this not an issue and that Gregory should escalate this bug if he feels it is warranted.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>125230</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Charles McCathieNevile">chaals</who>
    <bug_when>2016-02-23 15:49:17 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>This has been changed [1], since the HTML5 approach was broken both in principle - user agents don&apos;t *know* what the user&apos;s keyboartd has available, let alone whether a key is actually a *shortcut* - and in practice since what cannot work is unlikely to do so, and indeed didn&apos;t.

[1] https://github.com/w3c/html/pull/87</thetext>
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