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    <bug>
          <bug_id>10446</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2010-08-26 10:03:00 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Consider limiting the roles of certain media and plugin elements</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2010-12-15 14:45:27 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>pre-LC1 HTML5 spec (editor: Ian Hickson)</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>All</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>a11y, a11ytf, aria, media</keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          <blocked>10066</blocked>
    
    <blocked>10482</blocked>
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Maciej Stachowiak">mjs</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</assigned_to>
          <cc>cooper</cc>
    
    <cc>hsivonen</cc>
    
    <cc>ian</cc>
    
    <cc>laura.lee.carlson</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-a11y</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-admin</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-wg-issue-tracking</cc>
    
    <cc>xn--mlform-iua</cc>
          
          <qa_contact name="HTML WG Bugzilla archive list">public-html-bugzilla</qa_contact>

      

      

      

          <comment_sort_order>oldest_to_newest</comment_sort_order>  
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    <commentid>37915</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Maciej Stachowiak">mjs</who>
    <bug_when>2010-08-26 10:03:00 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>The following embedding elements currently allow any role:

audio, embed, iframe, object, svg, video

However, it does not really make sense to use these as an arbitrary widget or landmark. Consider the following limitations:

audio -&gt; no role, application
embed -&gt; no role, application, document, image
object -&gt; no role, application, document, image
svg -&gt; no role, application, document, presentation, image
video -&gt; no role, application</thetext>
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    <commentid>37925</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Henri Sivonen">hsivonen</who>
    <bug_when>2010-08-26 11:03:37 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>svg can be used to create just about any widget from primitive shapes and event handlers, so I&apos;d expect svg to be able to take any role.</thetext>
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    <commentid>37926</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Maciej Stachowiak">mjs</who>
    <bug_when>2010-08-26 12:03:28 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to comment #1)
&gt; svg can be used to create just about any widget from primitive shapes and event
&gt; handlers, so I&apos;d expect svg to be able to take any role.

Good point. And people do in fact use SVG to build arbitrary widgets.</thetext>
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    <commentid>37962</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2010-08-26 19:41:56 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>EDITOR&apos;S RESPONSE: This is an Editor&apos;s Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:
   http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html

Status: Accepted
Change Description: see diff given below
Rationale: Concurred with reporter&apos;s comments, except &quot;svg&quot; is up to the SVG WG.</thetext>
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    <commentid>37963</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="">contributor</who>
    <bug_when>2010-08-26 19:42:28 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Checked in as WHATWG revision r5366.
Check-in comment: Provide more ARIA role mappings for embed,audio,video,iframe,object
http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=5365&amp;to=5366</thetext>
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    <commentid>38127</commentid>
    <comment_count>5</comment_count>
    <who name="Leif Halvard Silli">xn--mlform-iua</who>
    <bug_when>2010-08-28 16:06:09 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Ian (and Maciej, too!): The bug was fixed incorrectly: There is no ARIA role &quot;image&quot;. The correct role is &quot;img&quot;. Relates to embed and object (and svg).</thetext>
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    <commentid>38140</commentid>
    <comment_count>6</comment_count>
    <who name="Maciej Stachowiak">mjs</who>
    <bug_when>2010-08-29 01:09:19 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Mea culpa. Leif is correct that it should be &quot;img&quot;.</thetext>
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    <commentid>38147</commentid>
    <comment_count>7</comment_count>
    <who name="Maciej Stachowiak">mjs</who>
    <bug_when>2010-08-29 01:26:46 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>I filed bug 10486 about the new issue about the spelling of &quot;image&quot; vs &quot;img&quot;. Closing this bug.</thetext>
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    <commentid>43394</commentid>
    <comment_count>8</comment_count>
    <who name="Michael Cooper">cooper</who>
    <bug_when>2010-12-15 14:45:27 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Bug triage sub-team notes there is active discussion, and this appears to meet the threshold of being of interest to the HTML A11Y TF. Adding a11ytf keyword. 

Also considered question of whether roles of media elements affect processing of media. Adding the media keyword so the media sub-team can weigh in on this.</thetext>
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