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    <bug>
          <bug_id>10017</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2010-06-25 22:34:47 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>longdesc and @aria-describedby (ARIA)</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2010-12-01 15:31:21 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>pre-LC1 HTML5 spec (editor: Ian Hickson)</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>Macintosh</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Mac System 9.x</op_sys>
          <bug_status>VERIFIED</bug_status>
          <resolution>INVALID</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc>http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/embedded-content-1.html#the-img-element</bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>a11y, a11y_text-alt, aria</keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Leif Halvard Silli">xn--mlform-iua</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</assigned_to>
          <cc>ian</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
    <cc>Ms2ger</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-admin</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-wg-issue-tracking</cc>
    
    <cc>xn--mlform-iua</cc>
          
          <qa_contact name="HTML WG Bugzilla archive list">public-html-bugzilla</qa_contact>

      

      

      

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          <long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>36426</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Leif Halvard Silli">xn--mlform-iua</who>
    <bug_when>2010-06-25 22:34:47 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>How does longdesc and @aria-describedby work together?

What should happen when/if both are used on the same &lt;img&gt;? Solving this problem will tell authors whether it is useful to use both, or always just a waste of time/space,  sometimes useful etc.

Example:

&lt;img 
   aria-describedby=samepage-fragment  
  longdesc=#samepage-fragment 
  src=foo alt=&quot;Foo. Bar.&quot;&gt;

What if aria-describedby contains a IDREF _list_? Should that impact how one uses @longdesc? 

Example:

&lt;img 
   aria-describedby=samepage-fragment-1  samepage-fragment-2 samepage-fragment-3
  longdesc=#samepage-fragment-1
  src=foo alt=&quot;Foo. Bar.&quot;&gt;

Are there cases when it is useful to _both_ point to long description on the same page (via aria-describedby) _and_ to a long description on another page? Or should this cause a warning, for some reason?

Example:

&lt;img 
   aria-describedby=samepage-fragment  
  longdesc=other-page 
  src=foo alt=&quot;Foo. Bar.&quot;&gt;</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>37520</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2010-08-16 22:24:39 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>EDITOR&apos;S RESPONSE: This is an Editor&apos;s Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:
   http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html

Status: Rejected
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale: The longdesc is obsolete, per WG decision.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>37527</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Leif Halvard Silli">xn--mlform-iua</who>
    <bug_when>2010-08-16 22:58:17 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>ISSUE-30 has been appealed, and the Appeal is awaiting response from the Team Contact and/or Director.

http://www.w3.org/mid/20100815024127561631.58433bf1@xn--mlform-iua.no</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>37573</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2010-08-17 18:54:19 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Please don&apos;t reopen unless the appeal succeeds.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>38312</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="Michael Cooper">cooper</who>
    <bug_when>2010-08-31 13:37:25 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Aug/0013.html

The bug triage sub-team thinks the HTML A11Y TF does not need to formally follow this bug. Original submitters or other interested parties may choose to continue to push this issue on their own. Notes from the sub-team may follow in a separate comment.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>38318</commentid>
    <comment_count>5</comment_count>
    <who name="Michael Cooper">cooper</who>
    <bug_when>2010-08-31 13:43:45 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Bug triage sub-team notes that this issue is captured in the text alternatives proposal http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ImgElement20090126 and it is already defined that ARIA overrides native features.</thetext>
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