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14:52:22 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio
14:52:38 <Fazio> meeting: Maturity Model Task Force
14:52:51 <Fazio> chair: David Fazio
14:52:58 <Fazio> Agenda+ New Business
14:52:58 <Fazio> Agenda+ GitHub Issue #378 AI Considerations
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15:05:06 <Neha> agenda?
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15:05:36 <Neha> zakim, next item
15:05:36 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio]
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15:06:19 <Neha> Management do not want MM 1.1 version, but update note
15:06:56 <Neha> Fazio: because we are not a spec and it is a note
15:07:15 <Neha> Janina: but we can publish for a wide review
15:07:37 <jkline> queue+
15:08:23 <Neha> Fazio: is it for delegitamite us? We can do more
15:08:37 <Neha> janina: We have to answer what is new in it
15:08:56 <Neha> Sheri: Putting a new section related to AI would help
15:09:16 <Neha> janina: responding to issues will not solve our problem
15:11:09 <Neha> janina: we are getting a good support and it will be useful
15:11:40 <Neha> Fazio: we can get a help from management would be helpful
15:11:48 <Neha> janina: It is difficult to happen
15:12:41 <Neha> Sheri: Do we want to review stuff related to issue #377?
15:13:01 <Neha> janina: let us go ahead what we are doing right now
15:13:37 <Neha> Sheri: Let us discuss today how to push WCAG 3 ?
15:14:39 <Neha> Sheri: Send me recent spreadsheet which I can refer for AI related work
15:15:11 <Neha> close, this item
15:15:19 <Neha> zakim, close this item
15:15:19 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Neha
15:15:28 <Neha> ack jkline
15:15:55 <Neha> Topic: WCAG 3 stuff
15:16:45 <Neha> Sheri: Do we want to do shortcuts?
15:16:50 <Neha> All: No
15:17:44 <Neha> janina: some of them restated
15:18:05 <Neha> jkline: we can request for some kind of formal statement
15:18:18 <Neha> janina: they have already done on issue tracker
15:18:35 <Neha> janina: but that is standard process
15:20:55 <Neha> janina: do we have a exact pointer from WCAG 3?
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15:21:20 <Fazio> https://w3c.github.io/wcag3/guidelines/
15:21:44 <Sheri> Assertions are not required to conform but are used to show procedural commitments to accessibility and improve comparison between products.
15:22:12 <Sheri> Content — these assertions focus on the content and include processes that determine whether the content is accessible. For example, plain language reviews, usability testing, AT testing, or style guides.
15:22:12 <Sheri> Organization — these assertions focus on the organization and include processes that help organizations create accessible content such as training staff in accessibility or providing public accessibility statements.
15:22:25 <Sheri> https://www.w3.org/TR/wcag-3.0/#assertion-tags
15:22:29 <Neha> Section from WCAG 3 - 4.1.3
15:26:46 <Neha> janina: in this explanation they should give some examples and references
15:27:53 <Neha> Sheri: 1. hey need to point examples, existing maturity models
15:28:07 <Neha> 2. For referening maturiory models you get the time
15:30:37 <Neha> WCAG require organizations to track things over a time and MM is good way of doing it
15:31:02 <Neha> janina: when did WCAG needs comments? deadline?
15:31:21 <Neha> Sheri: atleast a month
15:31:36 <Neha> Sheri: I can draft something
15:32:07 <Neha> Sheri: By Friday
15:33:31 <Neha> Fazio: I will coordiante with Matthew
15:36:15 <Neha> Fazio, janina and Sheri will draft an email together
15:36:25 <Neha> q?
15:37:27 <Neha> Topic: Issue #377
15:37:36 <Neha> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/377
15:37:37 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/377 -> Issue 377 The Knowledge and Skills dimension is too narrowly focused on individual staff competencies (by zwiastunsw)
15:37:52 <janina> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/377
15:45:02 <Neha> Sheri sent two emails regarding issue 348 and 377
15:45:19 <Neha> Jeff Adams will put email in #377 comment section
15:48:13 <Neha> janina: we can be more clear and clean about our language that will be useful
15:50:45 <Neha> Mark_Miller: Based on the comment, that person is confused between K and S, but here are very good points in it. Sheri is proposing to use these in model
15:51:02 <Neha> Fazio: I dont think they are not confused
15:52:13 <Neha> Sheri: We agreed capabilities are not mapped to organization but to employees
15:54:09 <Neha> janina: Remedy proposed in issue is wrong
15:54:35 <Neha> janina: we do not want individual's K and S should not be confused with organizational K and S
15:59:30 <Neha> zakim, end meeting
15:59:30 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Fazio, Mark_Miller, Crispy, jkline, JeffAdams-UN, Neha, Sheri, janina, CharlesL
15:59:33 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:59:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/09/16-maturity-minutes.html Zakim
15:59:37 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Neha; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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