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11:38:48 <RiccardoAlbertoni> Meeting: DCAT Task Force Meeting
11:38:58 <RiccardoAlbertoni> Chair: riccardoAlbertoni
11:39:07 <RiccardoAlbertoni> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/eeef3fdc-fea7-497c-8db6-a407879f5846/
11:39:38 <RiccardoAlbertoni> rrsagent, make log public
11:39:55 <RiccardoAlbertoni> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:39:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/09/11-dx-dcat-minutes.html RiccardoAlbertoni
11:41:06 <RiccardoAlbertoni> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/eeef3fdc-fea7-497c-8db6-a407879f5846/
11:41:14 <RiccardoAlbertoni> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:41:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/09/11-dx-dcat-minutes.html RiccardoAlbertoni
11:41:42 <RiccardoAlbertoni> agenda+ Repository Migration & Ownership
11:41:55 <RiccardoAlbertoni> agenda+ Maintenance Scope vs. Versioning Policy
11:42:03 <RiccardoAlbertoni> agenda+ RDF Automated Maintenance (https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1639)
11:42:11 <RiccardoAlbertoni> agenda+ Priority Issues for Discussion - Versioning in DCAT 3: Omit PAV subproperty definition (https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1632)
11:42:18 <RiccardoAlbertoni> agenda+ Restore original definitions of reused terms and move contextualized ones to scope notes (https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1647)
11:42:25 <RiccardoAlbertoni> agenda+ Missing property connecting Catalog to Dataset Series; is Dataset Series really a subclass of Dataset? (https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1598) [jakub]
11:42:35 <RiccardoAlbertoni> rrsagent, draft minutes
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11:43:02 <RiccardoAlbertoni> agenda?
11:43:44 <RiccardoAlbertoni> present+
11:44:07 <RiccardoAlbertoni> who is here?
11:44:16 <RiccardoAlbertoni> zakim, who is here?
11:44:16 <Zakim> Present: RiccardoAlbertoni
11:44:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, RiccardoAlbertoni
11:44:55 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q?
11:46:31 <RiccardoAlbertoni> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:46:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/09/11-dx-dcat-minutes.html RiccardoAlbertoni
11:50:47 <RiccardoAlbertoni> s/who is here?//g
11:50:56 <RiccardoAlbertoni> rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:00:39 <RiccardoAlbertoni> regrets+ AntoineIsaac
12:00:47 <RiccardoAlbertoni> rsagent, draft minutes
12:01:06 <Jakub> present+
12:01:16 <RiccardoAlbertoni> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:01:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/09/11-dx-dcat-minutes.html RiccardoAlbertoni
12:01:44 <Jakub> present+
12:01:44 <RiccardoAlbertoni> s/rsagent, draft minutes//
12:01:54 <RiccardoAlbertoni> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:01:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/09/11-dx-dcat-minutes.html RiccardoAlbertoni
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12:07:05 <RiccardoAlbertoni> present+ Simon
12:07:11 <RiccardoAlbertoni> rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:08:12 <Jakub> Scribe: Jakub
12:08:32 <RiccardoAlbertoni> agenda?
12:08:50 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/eeef3fdc-fea7-497c-8db6-a407879f5846/
12:09:17 <Jakub> Zakim, next item
12:09:17 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Repository Migration & Ownership -- taken up [from RiccardoAlbertoni]
12:10:48 <Jakub> Simon: have experience from OWL Time ontology, key is moving directories with full history
12:11:41 <Jakub> Simon: new repo is not a submodule now
12:12:43 <Jakub> Simon: successfully pushed the dcat directory, but did not test the rest of the functionality
12:13:12 <Jakub> Simon: Contained history since 2017
12:13:30 <Jakub> Simon: Still missing - issues transfer (automatable), pull requests cannot be moved
12:14:50 <Jakub> RiccardoAlbertoni: Also to be moved: implementation report, wiki, DCAT releases
12:15:18 <Jakub> ... for DCAT3, proper release functionality not used, but should be used in future
12:15:58 <Jakub> Simon: Implementation report should definitely be moved. Unsure of wiki
12:16:55 <Jakub> ... is it repository per deliverable? Is the implementation report a deliverable, or a dependency?
12:17:25 <Jakub> RiccardoAlbertoni: The implementation report was not a separate deliverable. It should be in the same repo with DCAT
12:18:22 <Jakub> ... let's discuss who takes ownership of the repo migration
12:19:43 <Jakub> ... It makes sense that Simon gets admin permission and replicates what has been done elsewhere, RiccardoAlbertoni will take up missing items
12:20:03 <Jakub> Simon: Then the moved DCAT resources should be removed from the original repo?
12:20:19 <Jakub> RiccardoAlbertoni: This should be discussed at the WG plenary meeting
12:21:26 <Jakub> ... created a couple of issues regarding RDF representation management and things that would help in future maintenance of the repo
12:22:19 <Jakub> Simon: Will proceed with the move of the DCAT directory to the new repo
12:22:39 <RiccardoAlbertoni> action to simon  Will proceed with the move of the DCAT directory to the new repo
12:23:07 <Jakub> ACTION: Simon to move the directory
12:23:23 <Jakub> Zakim, next item
12:23:23 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Maintenance Scope vs. Versioning Policy -- taken up [from RiccardoAlbertoni]
12:24:04 <Jakub> RiccardoAlbertoni: Tried to use issue labels for Classes of change
12:24:28 <Jakub> ... Classes 1 and 2 can be published in the current REC upon voting in the WG
12:24:44 <RiccardoAlbertoni> action: simon to https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#revising-rec
12:25:15 <Jakub> actions?
12:25:26 <Jakub> rrsagent, drop action 2
12:25:32 <RiccardoAlbertoni> s/action: simon to https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#revising-rec//
12:25:49 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#revising-rec
12:27:11 <Jakub> RiccardoAlbertoni: Different kinds of recommendation revisions
12:27:19 <Jakub> ... in the W3C process
12:28:40 <Jakub> ... we need to decide whether we are going to deliver a new REC or not
12:29:23 <Jakub> ... for minor changes, we maintain the list of current editors, for new features and substantial changes (class 4 and 3) we may remove editors of the previous version
12:29:50 <Jakub> Simon: only periferally involved in DCATv3
12:30:11 <Jakub> ... not really up to speed with the scope and scale of the work to be done with DCAT
12:30:26 <Jakub> ... was this presented at the WG plenary?
12:31:19 <Jakub> RiccardoAlbertoni: We have many issues, most of them reformulation, explanation, guidance improvement
12:31:39 <Jakub> ... already requests for new properties though
12:32:05 <Jakub> ... e.g. the new dcat:datasetSeries property, which is probably easy
12:32:36 <Jakub> ... for that, we do not need to collect an actual use, it may be enough to just say it makes sense to have it
12:32:53 <Jakub> ... Jakub had some ideas about machine readability of DCAT
12:33:14 <Jakub> ... might be substantial change or feature
12:39:21 <Jakub> Jakub described what is missing in the DCAT REC from the machine-processability point of view - machine-readable representation of the DCAT REC as a whole, perhaps using PROF vocaulary, and machine readable representation of profiles of terms from other vocabularies in the context of DCAT
12:39:48 <Jakub> RiccardoAlbertoni: Jakub should open an issue on this and explain
12:40:44 <Jakub> ... every new feature in REC requires independent implementations
12:41:20 <Jakub> ACTION: Jakub open issue on what could be done for improving machine readablity of DCAT
12:42:34 <Jakub> RiccardoAlbertoni: we are not 100% sure we will deliver DCAT4
12:43:04 <Jakub> ... it is a difficult process
12:43:43 <Jakub> Simon: we also considered a living standard, but that is hard to do for W3C
12:44:05 <Jakub> RiccardoAlbertoni: Next actions are to finish the repo transfer, so that we can start working
12:44:34 <Jakub> ... class1 and class2 issue resolutions could be merged, class3 and class4 should not be merged
12:44:47 <Jakub> ... we need to decide about providing a new DCAT release or not before that
12:45:26 <Jakub> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:45:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/09/11-dx-dcat-minutes.html Jakub
12:46:36 <Jakub> RiccardoAlbertoni: This is the first time we are not starting with a new deliverable, which is more straightforward than having the options now
12:46:43 <Jakub> actions?
12:46:59 <Jakub> Zakim, next item
12:46:59 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- RDF Automated Maintenance (https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1639) -- taken up [from RiccardoAlbertoni]
12:48:14 <Jakub> RiccardoAlbertoni: experimenting with gh actions for automatic generation of RDF representations in other formats. Goal is to keep the diff to minimum.
12:48:28 <Jakub> ... goal is to change only RDF Turtle file, generate the others
12:48:44 <Jakub> s/file/files
12:49:39 <Jakub> ... let's take it step by step, first work on smaller issues
12:49:45 <Jakub> ... integrate Echidna later
12:50:08 <Jakub> Simon: There is experience in the SSN ontology, just got it working
12:51:12 <Jakub> RiccardoAlbertoni: Maybe we could first integrate with Echidna? Every merged PR going into the working draft could be dangerous
12:52:09 <Jakub> Simon: merged about 30 PRs in the SSN ontology, feedback gets back quickly. But there was a policy decision early in the process that merging in the main branch requires 2 positive reviews
12:52:54 <Jakub> ... when the reviews took a long time, it was frustrating.
12:53:45 <Jakub> ... the review process reduced the number of small merges.
12:54:36 <Jakub> RiccardoAlbertoni: alternatively, we could have a side-branch for quick publication, and keep the main branch as an editor draft
12:55:06 <Jakub> ... so only once more changes are reviewed, they get to the main branch, in a more controlled way
12:55:41 <Jakub> ... we already have the 2-review requirement in place
12:56:48 <Jakub> Simon: Is the main branch gh-pages?
12:57:12 <Jakub> RiccardoAlbertoni: now yes, gh-pages
12:57:49 <Jakub> agenda?
12:58:30 <Jakub> zakim, next item
12:58:30 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Priority Issues for Discussion - Versioning in DCAT 3: Omit PAV subproperty definition (https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1632) -- taken up [from RiccardoAlbertoni]
13:01:29 <Jakub> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:01:41 <RiccardoAlbertoni> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:02:10 <Jakub> Zakim, take up agendum 3
13:02:10 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- RDF Automated Maintenance (https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1639) -- taken up [from RiccardoAlbertoni]
13:02:13 <Jakub> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:02:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/09/11-dx-dcat-minutes.html Jakub
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