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12:59:41 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
12:59:42 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), JJ
12:59:44 <JJ> Zakim, this is MATF 9 September 2026
12:59:44 <Zakim> to set the meeting title please use "meeting: MATF 9 September 2026", JJ
12:59:51 <JJ> Meeting: MATF 9 September 2026
12:59:55 <JJ> chair+
13:00:05 <JJ> agenda+ Final review of WCAG2Mobile - Second Draft
13:00:10 <JJ> agenda+ WCAG2Mobile project planning: Third Draft
13:00:15 <JJ> agenda+ Review WCAG 3
13:00:22 <JJ> zakim, agenda?
13:00:22 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda:
13:00:23 <Zakim> 1. Final review of WCAG2Mobile - Second Draft [from JJ]
13:00:23 <Zakim> 2. WCAG2Mobile project planning: Third Draft [from JJ]
13:00:23 <Zakim> 3. Review WCAG 3 [from JJ]
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13:06:37 <JJ> move to next agendum
13:06:37 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Final review of WCAG2Mobile - Second Draft -- taken up [from JJ]
13:06:46 <JJ> Editors' Draft to be published as Second Draft: https://w3c.github.io/matf/
13:06:50 <JJ> Difference between First and Second Draft: https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2F2025%2FDNOTE-wcag2mobile-22-20250506%2F&doc2=https%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io%2Fmatf%2F
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13:06:57 <JJ> Review by Tanya: https://github.com/w3c/matf/pull/298
13:06:58 <Tanya> present+
13:07:18 <Joe_Humbert> present+
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13:10:56 <JJ> Section 1 Introduction presented
13:18:04 <JJ> Section 2 Key Terms presented
13:18:16 <quintinb> Section 2 "Key Terms" presented
13:26:24 <JJ> Section 3 Success Criteria comments presented
13:28:09 <JJ> Rachael: change affiliation to Evinced
13:28:39 <quintinb> ACTION: Rachael Yomtoob: change affiliation to Evinced
13:29:45 <JJ> Review by Tanya: https://github.com/w3c/matf/pull/298
13:32:09 <Joe_Humbert> thank you  Tanya  for the review work fixing typos and added definitions
13:33:27 <Tanya> You’re welcome! It was a lot of work, but all for a good purpose. There’s still a lot of room for improvement.
13:36:10 <Tanya> I see something that needs to be replaced in 2.5.8. "Application control" should be replaced with the new terms
13:36:40 <JJ> https://github.com/w3c/matf/pull/298/changes > Submit review
13:37:18 <JJ> q?
13:40:02 <JJ> move to next agendum
13:40:02 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- WCAG2Mobile project planning: Third Draft -- taken up [from JJ]
13:41:06 <JJ> https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aopen%20milestone%3A%22Third%20Draft%22&page=2
13:45:41 <Tanya> q+
13:47:23 <JJ> ack Tanya
13:47:51 <quintinb> tanya: Did we forget the current draft to not be published simultaneously - Steven was working on the document about touch target size
13:47:57 <quintinb> I believe that was a book
13:48:08 <quintinb> I tried reading that in prep for today
13:48:11 <quintinb> I was shocked
13:48:35 <quintinb> (just by the amount)
13:48:47 <JJ> Haha it was from his previously published book https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60387849-touch-design-for-mobile-interfaces
13:49:01 <quintinb> We can all see JJ :)
13:49:13 <JJ> Ah yes
13:49:35 <quintinb> tanya: Can we all pick SC's and issues so that we can be drafting and avoiding length processes
13:50:15 <JJ> ACTION: Create issue for 2.5.8 target size note with Steven Hoober research on minimum sizes for touch
13:50:25 <JJ> q?
13:50:56 <JJ> move to next agendum
13:50:56 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Review WCAG 3 -- taken up [from JJ]
13:51:18 <quintinb> Is there a link where we can start?
13:51:31 <quintinb> Excel? Hoo-boy
13:52:13 <JJ> https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/discussions/851
13:52:13 <quintinb> I think we should review the right thing, and also the SAME thing
13:52:59 <JJ> https://www.w3.org/TR/wcag-3.0/
13:54:52 <Tanya> https://www.w3.org/TR/wcag-3.0-explainer/#background
13:55:53 <JJ> Editor's Draft of WCAG 3: https://w3c.github.io/wcag3/guidelines/
13:59:53 <JJ> rrsagent, make minutes
13:59:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/09/09-matf-minutes.html JJ
14:00:23 <JJ> present+ pauljadam
14:00:48 <JJ> present+ k
14:00:51 <JJ> rrsagent, make minutes
14:00:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/09/09-matf-minutes.html JJ
14:01:02 <JJ> rrsagent, bye
14:01:02 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in https://www.w3.org/2026/09/09-matf-actions.rdf :
14:01:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Rachael Yomtoob: change affiliation to Evinced [1]
14:01:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2026/09/09-matf-irc#T13-28-39
14:01:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Create issue for 2.5.8 target size note with Steven Hoober research on minimum sizes for touch [2]
14:01:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2026/09/09-matf-irc#T13-50-15