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14:04:40 <matatk> present+
14:04:50 <matatk> meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
14:05:18 <matatk> present+ Janina
14:05:22 <JenStrickland> present+ janina
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14:06:08 <JenStrickland> matatk There's news today, developments on things we've filed.
14:06:15 <matatk> agenda?
14:06:43 <matatk> topic: Agenda Review & Announcements
14:06:51 <PaulG> present+
14:07:05 <matatk> subtopic: RQTF Gaming CfC
14:07:20 <JenStrickland> present+ Janina
14:08:02 <matatk> q+
14:08:06 <JenStrickland> Janina: We're using a term called "intentional friction"
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14:11:51 <JenStrickland> Jen raised needs for transcription and not interruptions due to her disabilities.
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14:14:10 <matatk> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2026Sep/0000.html
14:14:44 <JenStrickland> @janina's point is that it exists, it's a hornet's next, RNIB is very interested, willing to be lead authors.
14:15:17 <JenStrickland> … please read the proposal carefully and provide actual comments. Not just +1, we need real comments to make sure this ends up being approved.
14:15:28 <JenStrickland> … we need to scope it right.
14:15:39 <Fazio> David Fazio will deliver a Digital Transformation for a Disability Inclusive Economy to Ministers of all 21 Caribbean nations in 2 weeks https://ctu.int/event/ctu-ict-week-2026-french-guiana/
14:16:36 <matatk> ack me
14:16:44 <JenStrickland> Fazio In 2 weeks the Caribbean Telecommunications  Union is bringing him out to French Guyana to deliver a digital transformation for a disability inclusive economy to the ministers of 21 Caribbean countries.
14:16:59 <matatk> subtopic: Accessibility podcast
14:17:10 <JenStrickland> stevef I appeared on a podcast last week with Mark Miller.
14:18:00 <stevef> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK1MA7fyqkU&feature=youtu.be
14:18:24 <JenStrickland> matatk running through a few notes, regarding things to discuss.
14:18:53 <matatk> topic: New charters
14:19:00 <matatk> subtopic: Linked Web Storage WG
14:19:29 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/180
14:20:08 <JenStrickland> … linked web storage working group is about data sovereignty, having control of your own data, hosting your own, etc.
14:20:12 <matatk> Diff view: https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fgroups%2Fwg%2Flws%2Fcharters%2Factive%2F%20&doc2=https%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io%2Flws-wg-charter%2F
14:20:45 <JenStrickland> … the mission is to develop the dev of web apps where data storage, auth, access control, and provider are loosely coupled.
14:21:28 <JenStrickland> … decentralizing the different parts of sign-in data storage, instead of one org hosting all your data, making it difficult to switch providers, for example.
14:21:48 <JenStrickland> … it's an offshoot of Solid WG, trying to determine the right approach.
14:22:11 <JenStrickland> … deliverables: authentication protocols, low-level open ID, SAML, etc.
14:22:31 <JenStrickland> … use case documents, non-normative… lots of changes, actually.
14:23:02 <JenStrickland> … it's pretty low-level, don't see any particular accessibility concerns, apart from making sure authentication meets WCAG.
14:23:13 <JenStrickland> … have lots of related groups.
14:23:44 <JenStrickland> … I don't see any reason we'd object to this. It's interesting development if you're into IndieWeb, decentralization.
14:24:00 <JenStrickland> @janina massive social implications, political, economic.
14:24:43 <JenStrickland> … to the work I've seen out of solid, we don't have a need for a specific APA question. If we're just looking at a charter, I think we can go.
14:24:56 <JenStrickland> matatk any questions? Hearing none, mark it as happy with this.
14:25:14 <matatk> topic: Spec review requests
14:25:56 <matatk> subtopic: Digital Credentials (update)
14:26:03 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/325
14:29:48 <matatk> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2026Sep/0013.html - asked RQTF about requirements, maybe even a WAUR?
14:32:06 <PaulG> q+
14:33:02 <matatk> We apparently did discuss wallet accessibility before (just found this following another search): https://www.w3.org/2022/10/19-rqtf-irc
14:33:11 <JenStrickland> @janina we want the pipe to not get in the way of a taxonomic understanding of how data fits together. That way we have a better oppty to impact APIs.
14:33:24 <JenStrickland> … wallets are prob the best place we have to succeed at that.
14:33:27 <matatk> ack PaulG
14:34:08 <JenStrickland> PaulG There is no UI that the author of the page is going to be responsible for. What I'm worried about is nefarious authors spoofing the UA'S UI for a request, then harvesting credentials.
14:34:23 <JenStrickland> … since the UA is taking control of the UI for this.
14:34:33 <JenStrickland> @janina Is there an accessibility angle?
14:34:44 <matatk> Apropos PaulG's point, this article may be of interest: https://emilymstark.com/2022/12/18/death-to-the-line-of-death.html
14:35:11 <JenStrickland> PaulG Let's say that the UA has a watermark that can't be recreated, it's visual, then someone who's blind or low vision may not see it. Section 13 a11y considerations.
14:35:40 <JenStrickland> matatk I'll make sure we follow up on that. Included link to an article that relates.
14:36:05 <JenStrickland> … a lot of security & privacy is built on the assumption that there is the browser's trusted UI, and people don't know where that line is.
14:40:35 <matatk> topic: Issue Tracking
14:41:03 <matatk> subtopic: Proposed comment for [css-forms-1] Use empty alt text for ::picker-icon and ::checkmark
14:41:13 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/342#issuecomment-5592588514
14:41:47 <JenStrickland> … as I posted this 16 hours ago, I don't see any reaction to it yet.
14:42:03 <JenStrickland> PaulG This is basically what I was saying last week, so thank you for putting that together.
14:42:43 <JenStrickland> matatk I propose that it's posted and folks thumbs up or object, we'll review. Then I'll ping the ARIA WG.
14:43:56 <matatk> subtopic: Proposed comment for Registries developed by the Media WG
14:44:15 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/350#issuecomment-5592946226
14:44:50 <JenStrickland> … we went through all of these registries last week, though most were low-level, except one with mention of human face segmentation in the video frame metadata.
14:45:11 <JenStrickland> … is this the right layer to put info that might help people know who's speaking, etc.
14:46:47 <matatk> subtopic: WebMCP Accessibility
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14:47:05 <matatk> Define accessibility requirements for WebMCP user-agent UI: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/344
14:47:22 <matatk> WebMCP accessibility review checklist: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/345
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14:49:15 <matatk> This is the thread on which we developed our original comment: WebMCP accessibility considerations
14:49:15 <matatk>  - https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/318
14:53:12 <PaulG> q+
14:53:49 <matatk> ack PaulG
14:54:44 <JenStrickland> PaulG Things may be going in the right direction. If there is a tendency to move forward with imperative and make it their leader, then the UA should treat it like SSL, being off. It doesn't meet human reviewable requirements. Putting a big warning on that is the only way that I see imperative moving forward.
14:54:53 <JenStrickland> … happy to get involved as I think it's important.
14:55:34 <JenStrickland> matatk What's the next step. They're trying to address the concerns we raised. One is more UA UI, the other is the whole thing. Anyone want to help me with this?
14:56:08 <JenStrickland> … I think Marcello would, he already follows these threads. I'll look at over the week and flag people who I think would be able to provide further inputs.
14:56:20 <JenStrickland> … already mentioned to WAI leadership.
14:56:28 <JenStrickland> JenStrickland I volunteer to take a look.
14:57:01 <JenStrickland> matatk We may need to create some extra time for people to do some specific stuff.
14:57:21 <matatk> s/to do some specific stuff/to do help with CSS and Open UI issues/
14:57:29 <JenStrickland> @janina I'll pay more attention that the AI a11y document and RQDF. Mgmt reminded me that it is my #1 responsibility.
14:57:45 <matatk> zakim, end meeting
14:57:45 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been matatk, Janina, JenStrickland, Neha, stevef, Fazio, JeffAdams-UN, PaulG, Vanessa
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