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14:51:34 <AvneeshSingh> zakim, this will be pmwg-a11y
14:51:35 <Zakim> ok, AvneeshSingh
14:51:47 <AvneeshSingh> present+
14:51:57 <AvneeshSingh> chair: AvneeshSingh
14:52:22 <AvneeshSingh> agenda+ Should we Merge all meetings of Accessibility task forces of PMWG and Publishing CG?
14:52:40 <AvneeshSingh> agenda+ Next steps for FXL accessibility documents.
14:52:52 <AvneeshSingh> agenda+ any other business
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15:08:55 <AvneeshSingh> zakim, next agendum
15:08:57 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Should we Merge all meetings of Accessibility task forces of PMWG and Publishing CG? -- taken up [from AvneeshSingh]
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15:09:56 <CharlesL> AvneeshSingh: already merged part of this, these two meetings causing confusion. Some docs are CG reports some may be WG notes.  Can we do all this if we join both?
15:10:04 <CharlesL> GeorgeK: Blockers?
15:10:28 <gpellegrino> q+
15:10:53 <CharlesL> mgarrish: no real issue generally, but voting could be tricky CG can't vote on WG issues. maybe CG members can abstain
15:11:13 <CharlesL> ... WG members can discuss CG issues
15:11:53 <CharlesL> ... no IP stuff, just to be careful with WG stuff. non WG members can abstain they can discuss the issues just no voting rights.
15:12:28 <CharlesL> ... we are a TF so we would need to get WG approval etc. anyways so this shouldn't be an issue.
15:12:53 <CharlesL> ack gpellegrino
15:15:35 <CharlesL> gpellegrino: I am ok with joining the two meetings
15:15:56 <CharlesL> AvneeshSingh: calendars could be an issue
15:16:24 <CharlesL> GeorgeK: I usually get 2 meeting invites
15:16:59 <CharlesL> AvneeshSingh: can you access the calendar zoom details for something no subscribed.
15:18:17 <CharlesL> CharlesL: maybe the community group calendar is accessible by all?
15:18:27 <CharlesL> AvneeshSingh: Will check with Ivan.
15:18:52 <CharlesL>  GeorgeK: repo for publishing, is the new repo set up for the community groups?
15:19:17 <CharlesL> mgarrish: its all set up just need to fix some URLs and have a number of PRs
15:19:38 <CharlesL> ... tomorrow afternoon it should be under the new CG
15:19:56 <CharlesL> GeorgeK: Thinking of deleting and recloning the repos on my machine.
15:20:33 <CharlesL> mgarrish: cg-w3c organization new URLs. auto redirects will be in place thou. publishing-a11y is all thats left.
15:20:53 <CharlesL> ... migration should be finished tomorrow afternoon.
15:21:21 <gautierchomel_> q+
15:22:03 <AvneeshSingh> ack next
15:22:28 <CharlesL> gautierchomel_: CG calendar is only available if you are logged in
15:22:49 <CharlesL> AvneeshSingh: w3c user-ID / Password
15:23:51 <CharlesL> gautierchomel_: w3c calendar is synced with my google calendar. date/title /link but you have to export your w3c calendar to your own calendar and then its on your calendar
15:24:15 <CharlesL> mgarrish: is there many CG members not in WG?
15:24:34 <CharlesL> ... its been a very small group.
15:25:53 <CharlesL> AvneeshSingh: CG calendar is better. WG has internal mailing list for member confidential. private (members only) not archiving not visible to outside WG members so this could work.
15:26:38 <AvneeshSingh> proposed: Have joint meetings of accessibility task forces of PMWG and Publishing CG from here on
15:26:48 <CharlesL> +1
15:26:51 <mgarrish> +1
15:27:08 <GeorgeK> +1
15:27:22 <AvneeshSingh> resolved
15:27:42 <AvneeshSingh> zakim, next agendum
15:27:42 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Next steps for FXL accessibility documents. -- taken up [from AvneeshSingh]
15:27:53 <CharlesL> RESOLVED: Have joint meetings of accessibility task forces of PMWG and Publishing CG from here on
15:28:05 <AvneeshSingh> https://w3c.github.io/epub-specs/wg-notes/fxl-a11y-tech/
15:32:11 <gautierchomel_> q+
15:32:15 <CharlesL> gpellegrino: we need to talk to Wendy to make sure the latest updates have been made, and Gregorio will take up editing the document with Charles as backup, and Charles, Gregorio, Avneesh will meet with Wending to discuss the future of this document.
15:32:35 <AvneeshSingh> ack next
15:33:31 <CharlesL> gautierchomel_: TTS functions and adding utterances happy to work with Gregorio and Charles. any Fixed Layout would render as Reflowable in Thorium.
15:33:58 <CharlesL> ... Daniel is working on this but TTS / Utterances are done by another.
15:34:16 <GeorgeK> q+
15:36:15 <CharlesL> GeorgeK: Bookshare Fixed Layout concerns need to be looked into based on this document and potential fixes to be looked into.
15:37:09 <CharlesL> ... Understanding Rhetoric - Macmillan Learning is a great example of a Fixed Layout EPUB. (this book is also in Bookshare.
15:37:18 <CharlesL> AvneeshSingh: will download from Bookshare.
15:37:20 <AvneeshSingh> ack next
15:38:55 <AvneeshSingh> ack next
15:39:07 <CharlesL> AvneeshSingh: Fixed Layout need to make accessible with AT, and Fixed Layout being made to reflow is two separate issues.
15:53:18 <AvneeshSingh> rrsagent, make minutes
15:53:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/08/20-pmwg-a11y-minutes.html AvneeshSingh
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15:53:35 <AvneeshSingh> rrsagent, make logs public
15:59:29 <AvneeshSingh> zakim, leave
15:59:29 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been AvneeshSingh, GeorgeK, CharlesL, gpellegrino, mgarrish
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