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12:52:56 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
12:52:59 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
12:52:59 <janina> agenda+ [TPAC 2026](https://www.w3.org/events/tpac/2026/tpac-2026/)
12:52:59 <janina> agenda+ New charters review
12:52:59 <janina> agenda+ New on TR
12:52:59 <janina> agenda+ [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues)
12:53:02 <janina> agenda+ [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues)
12:53:04 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul)
12:53:07 <janina> agenda+ Actions Checkin
12:53:09 <janina> agenda+ Other business
12:53:12 <janina> agenda+ Be done
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13:57:40 <janina> present+
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14:02:27 <janina> Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
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14:02:33 <janina> Date: 19 Aug 2026
14:03:32 <janina> Chair: Janina
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14:04:25 <marcelo> present+
14:04:30 <JeffAdams-UN> present+
14:05:30 <JeffAdams-UN> scribe+
14:05:38 <matatk> present+
14:06:32 <janina> zakim, who's here?
14:06:32 <Zakim> Present: janina, JenStrickland, PaulG, marcelo, JeffAdams-UN, matatk
14:06:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see marcelo, matatk, JeffAdams-UN, JenStrickland, PaulG, Fazio, RRSAgent, Zakim, jamesn, bkardell, janina, wendyreid, gb, Roy_Ruoxi, alice, nicolo-ribaudo, vmpstr,
14:06:34 <Zakim> ... jyasskin, Rachael, astearns, alastairc, chrishtr, slightlyoff
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14:08:32 <janina> zakim, who's here?
14:08:32 <Zakim> Present: janina, JenStrickland, PaulG, marcelo, JeffAdams-UN, matatk
14:08:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see Neha, marcelo, matatk, JeffAdams-UN, JenStrickland, PaulG, Fazio, RRSAgent, Zakim, jamesn, bkardell, janina, wendyreid, gb, Roy_Ruoxi, alice, nicolo-ribaudo, vmpstr,
14:08:34 <Zakim> ... jyasskin, Rachael, astearns, alastairc, chrishtr, slightlyoff
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14:10:16 <janina> zakim, who's here?
14:10:16 <Zakim> Present: janina, JenStrickland, PaulG, marcelo, JeffAdams-UN, matatk, Fazio, JonCohn, Vanessa
14:10:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see Vanessa4, JonCohn, Neha, marcelo, matatk, JeffAdams-UN, JenStrickland, PaulG, Fazio, RRSAgent, Zakim, jamesn, bkardell, janina, wendyreid, gb, Roy_Ruoxi, alice,
14:10:18 <Zakim> ... nicolo-ribaudo, vmpstr, jyasskin, Rachael, astearns, alastairc, chrishtr, slightlyoff
14:13:41 <Neha> present+
14:17:19 <JeffAdams-UN> zakim, next item
14:17:19 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
14:18:23 <matatk> AUR docs list: https://www.w3.org/WAI/research/user-requirements/ (and other resources too)
14:18:32 <JeffAdams-UN> janina: Call for Consensus forthcoming from Research Questions Task force for gaming accessibility user requirements
14:18:37 <JeffAdams-UN> zakim, next item
14:18:37 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- [TPAC 2026](https://www.w3.org/events/tpac/2026/tpac-2026/) -- taken up [from janina]
14:19:23 <JeffAdams-UN> janina: Reminding people to register for room since host hotel rooms tend to book up quickly
14:19:38 <janina> q?
14:19:44 <janina> q?
14:19:47 <JeffAdams-UN> janina: Continuing to work on sessions and breakouts
14:21:16 <JeffAdams-UN> zakim, next item
14:21:16 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- New charters review -- taken up [from janina]
14:21:59 <JeffAdams-UN> matatk: No new charters this week
14:22:54 <JeffAdams-UN> matatk: Talking with the Immersive Web Working Group about their chater and had some architectural questions for them. They have made some clarifications
14:23:06 <JeffAdams-UN> matatk: Spatial CSS is going to be intersting to watch
14:23:38 <JeffAdams-UN> zakim, next items
14:23:38 <Zakim> I don't understand 'next items', JeffAdams-UN
14:23:42 <JeffAdams-UN> zakim, next item
14:23:42 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- New on TR -- taken up [from janina]
14:24:09 <janina> zakim, close this item
14:24:09 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
14:24:10 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:24:10 <Zakim> 5. [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues) [from janina]
14:24:21 <JeffAdams-UN> zakim, next item
14:24:21 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues) -- taken up [from janina]
14:26:08 <janina> zakim, close this item
14:26:08 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
14:26:09 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:26:09 <Zakim> 6. [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues) [from janina]
14:26:18 <JeffAdams-UN> zakim, next item
14:26:18 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues) -- taken up [from janina]
14:26:40 <matatk> subtopic: WebMCP: accTree question
14:26:41 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/317
14:27:31 <JeffAdams-UN> matatk: They closed thread on their end and said it's not anything to do with the accessibility tree, which is the answer that we wanted.
14:27:32 <janina> q+
14:27:45 <JeffAdams-UN> ack janina
14:28:32 <JeffAdams-UN> janina: We should acknowledge that we were getting ready to make a comment in that direction and we're in agreement. It should be clear we didn't ignore it.
14:29:21 <JeffAdams-UN> janina: Will draft the comment
14:30:07 <matatk> subtopic: WebMCP (as a whole)
14:30:08 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/318
14:30:28 <matatk> That tracking thread links to the google doc we started to work on the comment: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_Y5X5npxGePkU7andL1ibvi7-JX25frel6wFUNcAizg
14:31:58 <marcelo> q+
14:32:20 <JeffAdams-UN> matatk: Dr Keith added comment on financial processes. Marcelo added expanded questions about the browser to make an argument for browser being required to provide definite UI to humans.
14:33:54 <JeffAdams-UN> matatk: Rare in standards to specify a tight level of what UI should be so people can experiment as well as pragmatic reasons. Most of questions are in as they were but open ended to WebMCP team can come back with how they'd solve the problem
14:35:00 <JeffAdams-UN> matatk: More expansion on how assistive tech perceives the page in the first place.
14:36:49 <janina> q?
14:37:01 <janina> ack mar
14:37:04 <JeffAdams-UN> matatk: Section called deployment/web content authoring question also from Marcelo. Propsing we take that section out for possibly later.
14:37:51 <JeffAdams-UN> marcelo: Doesn't object to removal. Main reason thought important was to ensure there's equitable experience for assistive technology users. Wanted to engage on that early on
14:37:54 <janina> q+
14:38:58 <JeffAdams-UN> matatk: Thinks its covered by high level question with how will people who use assistive technology get the same information as people who do not.
14:38:59 <PaulG> q+
14:39:05 <JeffAdams-UN> ack janina
14:40:05 <JeffAdams-UN> janina: IT's a key point we'll likely keep coming back to
14:40:12 <JeffAdams-UN> ack PaulG
14:40:16 <janina> q?ack pa
14:41:20 <marcelo> q+
14:41:40 <JeffAdams-UN> PaulG: Want to make sure we're respecting the boundary of what WebMCP is proposing. If we're discussing what an agent needs to do, we've crossed the boundray. If there's advertising that WebMCP capabilities are available, that should be human readable.
14:41:45 <JeffAdams-UN> ack marcelo
14:43:04 <matatk> q+ to talk about WebMCP vs MCP, and developer use cases
14:43:14 <janina> ack ma
14:43:14 <Zakim> matatk, you wanted to talk about WebMCP vs MCP, and developer use cases
14:43:20 <JeffAdams-UN> marcelo: MCP protocol has an extension called MCP apps. Idea is that LLM agent can access API via the protocol. What they get from backend, agent decides how to display that data to user. That transition may have different tools. The way we've been expericing the MCP today will become more complex
14:43:59 <marcelo> MCP Apps extension documentation: https://modelcontextprotocol.io/extensions/apps/overview
14:45:40 <JeffAdams-UN> matatk: It might not have been best idea to call this WebMCP because it's similar but not an exact mirror of it. This info is good context for us. Some discussion with proponents of WebMCP and it's mostly around what developers want to be able to have agents be able to do. This isn't in the documentation yet and we've asked for it. Seeing that
14:45:40 <JeffAdams-UN> would probably help answer questions.
14:45:46 <janina> q?
14:48:28 <JeffAdams-UN> matatk: Proposed to do 1) See if we can include Dr. Keith's mention of the WCAG success criterion on financial transactions. 2) Will post the contents of the google doc at the end of this week unless there are objections. Also, asking Paul to review use case coverage and extending for actions.
14:48:47 <matatk> subtopic: [css-forms-1] Handle prefers-contrast and forced-colors by default
14:48:58 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/341
14:50:35 <JeffAdams-UN> matatk: Suggesting default style sheets
14:51:57 <JeffAdams-UN> PaulG: Hard to know without seeing it. If it lands and there's a problem, they'll get bug reports. If they produce the calculations and say this reaches AA, this reaches AAA, that would be helpful.
14:52:09 <marcelo> +1 on suggesting the conformance levels AA, AAA
14:54:05 <JeffAdams-UN> PaulG: Web platform test (WPT) is fantastic idea because if it doesn't meet its own criteria if it's not provable that's the whole point.
14:55:20 <JeffAdams-UN> matatk: Invitation: if anything in the a11y tracking is of interest and you have thoughts, please add comments because its the APA space for discussing things.
14:55:32 <JeffAdams-UN> zakim, end meeting
14:55:32 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, JenStrickland, PaulG, marcelo, JeffAdams-UN, matatk, Fazio, JonCohn, Vanessa, Neha
14:55:34 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:55:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/08/19-apa-minutes.html Zakim
14:55:42 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, JeffAdams-UN; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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15:00:58 <janina> rrsagent, bye
15:00:58 <RRSAgent> I see no action items