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10:29:19 <AndyS> zakim, start meeting
10:29:19 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
10:29:20 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), AndyS
10:29:25 <AndyS> meeting: Data Shapes WG
10:31:01 <AndyS> meeting: Data Shapes WG
10:31:01 <AndyS> agenda: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/plenary2026-08-17.md
10:31:01 <AndyS> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/08/03-data-shapes-minutes.html
10:31:01 <AndyS> next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/08/31-data-shapes-minutes.html
10:31:02 <agendabot> AndyS, sorry, https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/plenary2026-08-17.md doesn't seem to exist.
10:31:24 <AndyS> agenda: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/plenary-2026-08-17.md
10:31:25 <agendabot> clear agenda
10:31:25 <agendabot> agenda+ Task Force reports
10:31:25 <agendabot> agenda+ General Business
10:32:16 <AndyS> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:32:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/08/17-data-shapes-minutes.html AndyS
10:32:26 <AndyS> rrsagent, make logs public
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11:00:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/08/17-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
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11:02:46 <nicholascar> topic: Task Force Reports
11:03:01 <DavidHabgood> present+
11:03:01 <nicholascar> q?
11:03:44 <nicholascar> AndyS: I've added SPARQL RL points to the agenda
11:04:02 <AndyS> ack me
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11:04:44 <nicholascar> HolgerK: all remaining items for SHACL-SPARQL are in the doc
11:05:05 <nicholascar> HolgerK: not Core or Node Exp updates other than SPARQL Functions on Node Exp
11:05:25 <nicholascar> s/not/no/
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11:07:28 <caribou> present+
11:07:42 <AndyS> present+ Oggy
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11:08:58 <nicholascar> nicholascar: vocab formulated based on PROV structures, next is Profiling with SHACL
11:09:18 <nicholascar> ajnelson-nist: community resource management around SHACL profiling needed now
11:09:20 <elianaP> q?
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11:10:04 <nicholascar> AndyS: Rules - PRs have been going in and a Media Type has been selected: application/sparql-rl
11:10:30 <nicholascar> AndyS: some security concerns have been addressed
11:10:49 <nicholascar> AndyS: document seems to now be ReSpec compliant, for now!
11:11:18 <nicholascar> AndyS: a PR was submitted to deal with Blank Node issues, testas added, RDF syntax removed
11:11:18 <AndyS> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/issues/1127
11:12:11 <nicholascar> AndyS: Issue above from Oggy relating Rules & constraints, submitted as a journal article
11:12:22 <nicholascar> AndyS: ready for Wide Review soon, after name confirmation
11:12:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/08/17-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
11:13:04 <nicholascar> elianaP: We empowered Rules TF to ask RDF/SPARQL WG about SPARQL RL as a name for Rules
11:13:21 <elianaP> q?
11:13:22 <nicholascar> AndyS: similar discussion in RDF WG about Rules name options as here
11:13:32 <TallTed> i/Task Force Reports/scribe: nicholascar
11:13:47 <nicholascar> (thanks TallTed!)
11:13:58 <TallTed> i/Task Force Reports/chair: elianaP
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11:14:27 <nicholascar> AndyS: some W3C staff happy - Pierre-Antoine
11:14:43 <TallTed> s/(thanks TallTed!)//
11:14:48 <AndyS> Draft -- VOTE: Use the short name "sparql-rl", with versioned form "sparql12-rl", for SPARQL-RL.
11:15:14 <AndyS> VOTE: Use the short name "sparql-rl", with versioned form "sparql12-rl", for SPARQL-RL.
11:15:18 <AndyS> +1
11:15:19 <ajnelson-nist> +1
11:15:20 <nicholascar> +1
11:15:20 <DavidHabgood> +1
11:15:21 <edmond> +1
11:15:21 <mgberg> +1
11:15:21 <caribou> 0
11:15:22 <TallTed> +1
11:15:22 <Robert> +1
11:15:22 <HolgerK> +1
11:15:23 <simonstey> -0.9
11:15:25 <elianaP> +1
11:15:27 <Oggy> +1
11:15:31 <bergos> +1
11:15:31 <labra> +1
11:15:32 <TallTed> s/Draft -- VOTE: Use the short name "sparql-rl", with versioned form "sparql12-rl", for SPARQL-RL.//
11:15:42 <ieben> +1
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11:18:01 <nicholascar> vote is carried
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11:18:57 <HolgerK> q+
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11:19:03 <TallTed> s/vote is carried/RESOLVED: Use the short name "sparql-rl", with versioned form "sparql12-rl", for SPARQL-RL.
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11:19:39 <nicholascar> AndyS & caribou discussed name change implementation issues
11:19:42 <nicholascar> ack HolgerK
11:20:46 <nicholascar> HolgerK: we discussed previously follow-on changes related to Rules. The SHACL-SPARQL chapter on Rules is proposed to become its own document. Relevant for the long-term
11:20:49 <nicholascar> q+
11:21:07 <nicholascar> ack nicholascar
11:21:58 <caribou> q+
11:22:12 <nicholascar> ack caribou
11:23:13 <nicholascar> caribou advises us to vote on the name only later, once the content is in place
11:23:51 <nicholascar> VOTE: Move the Rules section from SHACL-SPARQL into a new document
11:23:55 <nicholascar> +1
11:24:01 <simonstey> +1
11:24:03 <caribou> +1
11:24:05 <elianaP> +1
11:24:05 <HolgerK> +1
11:24:05 <ieben> +1
11:24:05 <edmond> +1
11:24:06 <Daniel7> +1
11:24:06 <DavidHabgood> +1
11:24:06 <mgberg> +1
11:24:06 <YoucTagh> +1
11:24:06 <Robert> +1
11:24:07 <TallTed> +1
11:24:07 <bergos> +1
11:24:09 <labra> +1
11:24:12 <AndyS> +1
11:24:16 <Oggy> +1
11:25:14 <ajnelson-nist> +1
11:25:16 <nicholascar> RESOLVED: Move the Rules section from SHACL-SPARQL into a new document
11:26:56 <caribou> name of the directory in GH repo can be different from the published shortname
11:27:09 <caribou> anything will do
11:27:11 <nicholascar> HolgerK & AndyS discussed GitHub actions for name changes and new docs
11:28:06 <elianaP> q?
11:28:20 <nicholascar> TOPIC: SHACL UI Task Force
11:28:51 <nicholascar> edmond: two meetings in the last week, rather than the usual 1 due to discussing new feature raising
11:29:29 <nicholascar> ...sh:order semantics discussed and another small one. 8 live PRs - lots of work- content aiming to be complete by end of month
11:29:51 <nicholascar> ...SHACL UI Profiling is the most relevant work and may need WG or Profiling TF input
11:30:30 <nicholascar> ieben: UI Profiling work early draft, to be discussed in TF meeting tmorrow
11:31:01 <elianaP> q?
11:31:24 <nicholascar> elianaP: no other points of agenda!
11:32:23 <AndyS> zakim, end meeting
11:32:23 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been TallTed, AndyS, elianaP, HolgerK, nicholascar, mgberg, ajnelson-nist, bergos, ieben, DavidHabgood, edmond, simonstey, caribou, Oggy,
11:32:26 <Zakim> ... Robert, labra, Daniel7, YoucTagh
11:32:26 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
11:32:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/08/17-data-shapes-minutes.html Zakim
11:32:33 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, AndyS; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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11:32:41 <nicholascar> Thanks to my assistant scribes
11:34:26 <TallTed> s/VOTE: /PROPOSED: /g
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