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14:54:31 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio
14:54:52 <Fazio> meeting: Maturity Model Task Force
14:55:11 <Fazio> chair: David Fazio
14:56:07 <Fazio> Agenda+ New Business
14:56:07 <Fazio> Agenda+ Continue with Abstract and Introduction Review
14:56:07 <Fazio> Agenda+ Github Issue #375 Outdated wording in the “Status of This Document” section
14:56:07 <Fazio> Agenda+ Github Issue # 374 Removing Disability Inclusion From The Document
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15:06:03 <JeffAdams-UN> zakim, next item
15:06:03 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio]
15:07:45 <JeffAdams-UN> Fazio: TPAC breakout sessions were discussed in APA meeting. Thinking is to consolidate breakouts into categories. Has been talk that Mark and Jeff share work we're doing as part of a consolidated breakout.
15:08:11 <janina> present+
15:08:26 <janina> q+
15:08:46 <JeffAdams-UN> Sheri_B-H: AI adjacent topic of expanding proof points, roughly a quarter, where AI could skew the results.
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15:09:14 <JeffAdams-UN> Fazio: This needs to be in GitHub as well
15:09:20 <jkline> q+
15:10:04 <JeffAdams-UN> janina: Could even be something that needs to be in introduction as well to call out how AI may be used there.
15:10:20 <JeffAdams-UN> Sheri_B-H: Likley new proof points to add with this as well.
15:10:29 <janina> q-
15:12:33 <JeffAdams-UN> ack jkline
15:13:36 <JeffAdams-UN> jkline: Why do we want to put something in for AI. When we refer to tools, wouldn't AI just be another tool? And AMM was thought to be tool agnostic.
15:14:14 <JeffAdams-UN> Sheri_B-H: But when tools are used for review, such as reviewing a VPAT with AI, it has to be considered for bias.
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15:14:34 <SusiPallero> Present+
15:14:48 <JeffAdams-UN> jkline: But is this something we should weigh into since they are doing analysis.
15:15:13 <JeffAdams-UN> Fazio: But since it's a proof point and not a dimension it makes it less perscriptive
15:15:31 <JeffAdams-UN> janina: The unconsidered use should be called out
15:16:57 <Fazio> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/378
15:16:58 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/378 -> Issue 378 AI Considerations (by Helixopp)
15:20:04 <JeffAdams-UN> zakim, next item
15:20:04 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Continue with Abstract and Introduction Review -- taken up [from Fazio]
15:21:50 <Fazio> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XGSht24yxRPswmhC-lEzdybst1aatAIGDcErfX7tawY/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.ddfu2tfltpm8
15:22:33 <Sheri_B-H> JeffAdams-UN picked up reading the proposed language from page 14 of the google doc
15:29:40 <Sheri_B-H> robust discussion on the difference between how to use and how to score
15:29:47 <Sheri_B-H> scoring should wait until after TPAC
15:34:09 <SusiPallero> maybe "Include people with disabilities, subject-matter experts, and individuals who bring both perspectives to the discovery process."
15:37:39 <Dr_Keith> Include people with disabilities as experts in lived experience, subject-matter experts, and individuals who bring both forms of expertise to the discovery process.
15:37:45 <SusiPallero> "Where possible, include subject-matter experts with and without disabilities, as well as people with disabilities who can contribute relevant lived experience, in the discovery process."
15:43:10 <Fazio> q?
15:52:04 <JeffAdams-UN> JeffAdams-UN: All sections are reviewed. Jeff will send clean doc to group. Jeff and David will get together to create the pull request.
15:53:16 <JeffAdams-UN> Fazio: For Jeff, please look at the metrics that is in github and look further in that section to discuss next week.
15:53:23 <Fazio> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/375
15:53:24 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/375 -> Issue 375 Outdated wording in the “Status of This Document” section (by zwiastunsw)
15:53:28 <Fazio> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/375
15:56:53 <JeffAdams-UN> Fazio: We'll update this section in our next section. Janina will be added to the github and will help support the update.
15:58:34 <JeffAdams-UN> zakim, end meeting
15:58:34 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Sheri_B-H, Fazio, Dr_Keith, jkline, JeffAdams-UN, janina, SusiPallero
15:58:36 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:58:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/08/12-maturity-minutes.html Zakim
15:58:46 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, JeffAdams-UN; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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