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14:56:43 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio
14:56:55 <Fazio> meeting: Maturity Model Task Force
14:57:01 <Mark_Miller> present+
14:57:05 <Fazio> chair: David Fazio
14:57:12 <Fazio> Agenda+ New Business
14:57:12 <Fazio> Agenda+ Review Issue #348 Pull Request e246677
14:57:12 <Fazio> Agenda+ Review Abstract and Introduction Updates
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15:05:49 <JeffAdams-UN> zakim, next item
15:05:49 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio]
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15:14:13 <CharlesL> Charles: maturity model tool linked to the old excel file since it was released in Nov. solution is to direct folks to go to the Editors draft and download the latest version.
15:14:32 <CharlesL> janina: FPWD by TPAC would be a good idea.
15:15:10 <CharlesL> JeffAdams-UN: Travel request for TPAC is approved.
15:16:10 <CharlesL> ... I will do a breakout on the work Mark and I have done with AI
15:17:20 <CharlesL> zakim, next item
15:17:20 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Review Issue #348 Pull Request e246677 -- taken up [from Fazio]
15:17:43 <Neha> Confirmed that Editor's draft is pointing to correct excel sheet version
15:18:37 <CharlesL> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/pull/373/changes
15:18:38 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/pull/373 -> PR 373 Update index.html (by Helixopp)
15:20:54 <CharlesL> david: organization-wide was removed redundant
15:21:56 <CharlesL> ... governance and oversight added
15:22:20 <CharlesL> ... removed  and hiring practices have been implemented
15:22:47 <CharlesL> changed Disability inclusion to accessibility
15:25:50 <CharlesL> ... Organizational Culture of Disability Inclusion changed to Accountability
15:26:54 <CharlesL> ... ICT Accessibility Policy to just Policy - we have an ICT dev section and didn't want it to be confused.
15:29:49 <CharlesL> ... ids need to be fixed, Neha will fix this.
15:30:52 <CharlesL> ... D&I is mentioned in the personnel section may be others.
15:31:27 <CharlesL> janina: all employees understand.  employees has been informed.
15:31:43 <CharlesL> david: Yes that was addressed.
15:32:26 <CharlesL> zakim, next item
15:32:26 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Review Abstract and Introduction Updates -- taken up [from Fazio]
15:33:53 <CharlesL> JeffAdams-UN: got into the about MM from last meeting. looking at an editors note on a11y conformance testing.
15:34:01 <CharlesL> ... added how to use section.
15:34:23 <CharlesL> ... left to do is "who is the audience section.
15:35:53 <CharlesL> Mark: pull out the section about WCAG conformance into an editors note.
15:36:51 <CharlesL> ... Mark reads the new updates for the remainder of the About section
15:41:24 <Neha> PR 373 merged
15:42:21 <CharlesL> ... Mark reads New "How to Use" section from claude and revised by Mark & Jeff
15:44:45 <Mark_Miller> This section explains how to use the Accessibility Maturity Model.
15:44:45 <Mark_Miller> The model is intended to evaluate an organization's capacity to create and maintain accessible digital assets. The model guides an evaluator/s in assessing an organization's readiness for these activities.
15:44:45 <Mark_Miller> To use the AMM:
15:44:45 <Mark_Miller> Scope the assessment: determine which dimension(s) to assess, and whether you are assessing the whole organization or a portion.
15:44:47 <Mark_Miller> Gather evidence: Collect data and document the findings for each dimension's proof points that reflect current, not aspirational, practice.
15:44:47 <Mark_Miller> Determine the maturity level: Establish the level the evidence supports for each dimension based on the guidance in the dimension.
15:44:47 <Mark_Miller> Record and act: Document the result of the assessment and, where the gaps in the maturity level exist. The results of the assessment can be used to create a corrective action plan with goals, owners, and timelines.
15:44:48 <Mark_Miller> For example, the Communications dimension is at the “Launch” level if the organization has written plans in place to make internal and external communications accessible and to comply with any applicable accessibility regulations, but those plans have not yet materialized into a cohesive, cross-organizational roadmap.
15:44:48 <Mark_Miller> To claim this maturity level in the Communications dimension, the proof points determined to be satisfied in the evaluation must support the claim.   The AMM provides applicable proof points.. Proof points may be extended as described in §1.3 Extending.
15:44:48 <Mark_Miller> A few rules apply throughout an assessment:
15:44:49 <Mark_Miller> Maturity levels are sequential: an organization reaches a level only after meeting the criteria of the previous level.
15:44:49 <Mark_Miller> Proof points may be partially completed at the Launch and Integrate levels, but must be fully completed at the Optimize level.
15:45:00 <Mark_Miller> Not every proof point applies to every organization. Where one does not apply, it is marked N/A (not applicable) and removed from scoring. For any marked N/A, annotate the reasoning.
15:45:00 <Mark_Miller> Some best practices for an assessment include: :
15:45:00 <Mark_Miller> Maturity is collaborative, therefore a cross-functional approach is most effective.
15:45:01 <Mark_Miller>  Include subject-matter experts and people with disabilities in the discovery process..
15:45:01 <Mark_Miller> Reassess on a regular cadence to track progress and catch areas that are regressing.
15:45:16 <Fazio> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XGSht24yxRPswmhC-lEzdybst1aatAIGDcErfX7tawY/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.ddfu2tfltpm8
15:46:25 <CharlesL> David: Determine the maturity level: Establish the level the evidence supports for each dimension based on the guidance in the dimension.
15:46:49 <CharlesL> janina: maybe em-dash instead of a :
15:47:58 <CharlesL> Mark_Miller: Maybe Establish is the issue should be determine but then its repeated twice.
15:48:50 <CharlesL> Mark_Miller: Jeff A wrote a fantastic blog post on writing in plain language.
15:50:06 <JeffAdams-UN> Plain language article: https://contentforeveryone.substack.com/p/plain-language-is-an-accessibility
15:51:11 <CharlesL> janina: have not yet materialized ... concerned materialized
15:52:20 <Fazio> q?
15:53:41 <CharlesL> David: determined to be satisfied
15:54:13 <CharlesL> Sheri_B-H: or validate?
15:54:26 <CharlesL> Mark_Miller: determined to be
15:55:18 <CharlesL> ... remove that leave rest.
15:55:26 <CharlesL> charles: double period
15:55:48 <CharlesL> david: will try to finalize the PR by next week.
15:56:10 <CharlesL> janina: lets shoot for a FPWD and get Shawn involved by Sept.
15:56:55 <CharlesL> Mark_Miller: I will be on PTO for the next week.
15:58:10 <CharlesL> janina: issue 365 I would like to address before FPWD
15:59:14 <CharlesL> Neha: I can fix this. wait until all PRs are in as this will change the section numbering.
16:00:17 <CharlesL> zakim, end meeting
16:00:17 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Mark_Miller, Fazio, JeffAdams-UN, janina, jkline, Sheri_B-H, stacey, CharlesL, SusiPallero, Neha
16:00:19 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:00:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/08/05-maturity-minutes.html Zakim
16:00:27 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, CharlesL; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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