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14:50:22 <phila> meeting: Weekly VC WG Meeting
14:50:26 <phila> agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/b1a3e329-74d1-405d-ab47-2934b41c2ab4/20260729T110000/
14:50:29 <phila> chair: phila
14:50:49 <phila> regrets: Brent, Ivan
14:50:56 <phila> RRSAgent, draft minutes
14:50:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/07/29-vcwg-minutes.html phila
14:59:29 <manu> present+
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15:04:25 <phila> scribe+ IvoLadenius
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15:05:13 <phila> -> https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/b1a3e329-74d1-405d-ab47-2934b41c2ab4/20260729T110000/
15:05:52 <phila> Topic: Welcome and intros
15:06:26 <phila> Topic: Progress Tracker
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15:06:40 <phila> -> Issue for the tracker https://github.com/w3c/vc-wg/issues/14
15:06:43 <pdl-asu> present+
15:06:56 <IvoLadenius> phila: that is an issue in the groups github repo. it has a link to the issue
15:07:13 <phila> -> Tracker doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OM-UsLnOZKywcy1eSGZsi_laCHBIy5wmQFOer0a7kYI/edit?pli=1&gid=67467047#gid=67467047
15:07:16 <IvoLadenius> manu: sharing his screen, has a hard time tracking in the document
15:07:56 <IvoLadenius> manu: goal is on the far right, asked for comments if people have extra comments
15:08:12 <dlongley> s/has a hard time tracking in the document/had a hard time tracking all the documents and their statuses, so created this tracker document/
15:08:21 <IvoLadenius> manu: describing the columns that are in the document
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15:08:54 <IvoLadenius> manu: for some of the work-items there is not enough progress
15:09:11 <IvoLadenius> manu: if you are a task force organiser: please keep it up to date
15:09:48 <IvoLadenius> phila: that spreadsheet is specifically for the groups for recommendation
15:10:13 <phila> Topic: VCDM 2.1
15:10:26 <IvoLadenius> phila: no comments, so then move on to VDCM 2.1
15:11:35 <IvoLadenius> phila: sees dmitri, thanks for the help,
15:11:47 <denkeni> present+
15:11:52 <TallTed> present+
15:11:58 <manu> q+
15:12:02 <phila> ack manu
15:12:04 <IvoLadenius> phila: we need to do with Manu, people that are less known with the document,
15:12:25 <IvoLadenius> manu: not a lot off issues, except for the new issue from 3 weeks ago.
15:12:45 <IvoLadenius> manu: not classed as future or flass 4 can be worked on
15:12:53 <IvoLadenius> manu: not classed as PR can be discussed
15:13:11 <IvoLadenius> manu: dmitri or kevin will raise PR's when discussed
15:13:36 <IvoLadenius> manu: we do have a pfwd
15:13:44 <phila> FPWD is at https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-data-model-2.1/
15:13:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/07/29-vcwg-minutes.html TallTed
15:14:11 <IvoLadenius> manu: other potential thing that could hold this up, is mix in to make the json 2.1 context
15:14:52 <IvoLadenius> manu: wdc datamodel could be the last one through those process because of that
15:15:23 <manu> q+
15:15:30 <IvoLadenius> dmititri: are we going to version 2.1 or sticking to 2.0
15:15:41 <IvoLadenius> phila: that is a issue but we need to decide what to do
15:15:53 <IvoLadenius> phila: dont do it just for the sake of it
15:15:56 <phila> ack manu
15:15:59 <TallTed> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/07/22-vcwg-minutes.html
15:16:00 <TallTed> next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/08/05-vcwg-minutes.html
15:16:26 <IvoLadenius> manu: we probably should go to 2.1 for 90% change
15:17:25 <IvoLadenius> phila: we leave it to the editors for now
15:17:51 <phila> Topic: Recognized Entities
15:17:53 <IvoLadenius> phila: if you work on document, etc let phil or Brent know and they will make time for it
15:18:32 <phila> -> Recognized Entities eds' draft https://w3c.github.io/vc-recognized-entities/
15:18:34 <IvoLadenius> manu: recognized entitites taskforce has have had meeting for a couple of months now. know what the core data model should be
15:18:41 <TallTed> s/pfwd/FPWD/
15:18:47 <IvoLadenius> manu: it looks like it works well
15:18:55 <IvoLadenius> manu: use cases has been added,
15:20:03 <IvoLadenius> manu: education, vital records, cross-border trade, product conformity coming from the UNTP, Federated identifiers,
15:20:33 <IvoLadenius> manu: pretty solid datamodel, and we have algoritms credential based discovery that you do recognise
15:21:01 <IvoLadenius> manu: there are examples of the algoritms and flow diagrams
15:21:15 <IvoLadenius> manu: there is also a very comprehensive threat model
15:21:43 <IvoLadenius> manu: the threat model documents have also diagrams, data flows, etc
15:22:26 <IvoLadenius> manu: stakeholders also have a break-down
15:22:50 <IvoLadenius> manu: 18 identified core-threat's and folks from the threat model group have looked at it
15:23:18 <IvoLadenius> manu: ecosystem examples, are also full ecosystems examples, for example the GS1 federated identifier example
15:23:41 <IvoLadenius> manu: we describe the chain of credentials with a flow, but also with an explicit example with a diagram
15:24:29 <IvoLadenius> manu: we also did it for UN GRID cross border trade example
15:25:15 <IvoLadenius> manu: the grid use case is interesting because it has a different way of discovering
15:25:33 <IvoLadenius> manu: the group is very close to be complete and candidate rec
15:26:26 <IvoLadenius> manu: from a deliverable perspective, we are now on the horizontal review request, next steps are CR, test suite, implemented, REC,
15:26:41 <IvoLadenius> manu: we havent started on test suite yet
15:27:29 <IvoLadenius> phila: GS1 will have a response in a month
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15:28:14 <IvoLadenius> phila: hope that a future state: the scanner has the software onboard with this recognized entity
15:29:16 <IvoLadenius> phila is asking for Phil Long
15:29:19 <pdl-asu> Hang on'
15:30:41 <IvoLadenius> pdl-asu: it is going to bring to the academic community: they see a way how to deal with this, those within the academic community can reach out to the issuers to inform them
15:30:52 <IvoLadenius> pdl-asu: 100% behind the thought
15:31:19 <denkeni> q+
15:31:26 <phila> ack denkeni
15:31:26 <bigbluehat> present+
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15:31:35 <phila> Topic: Task Forces
15:31:43 <phila> Subtopic: Confidence methods
15:31:54 <IvoLadenius> denkeni: in the current charter we have the confidence method but wonders if we should change the short name an url to VC confidence
15:32:19 <IvoLadenius> phila: it requires 2 things, a group resolution, help from Ivan but it is also a pain in the neck
15:32:47 <IvoLadenius> phila: it is on the agenda next week
15:33:59 <IvoLadenius> denkeni: we have raised conserns about insurance levels. whats the label of trust we rely on? is it a person identification or a label identification? confidence method along with insurance labels
15:34:01 <phila> ack wes-smith
15:34:14 <phila> subtopic: Barcode & DI
15:34:47 <IvoLadenius> wes-smith: barcodes integrity call yesterday, the group intents to move the barcode work bit string status lists feature to the base bit string specs
15:35:10 <IvoLadenius> wes-smith: it has need a little discussion with ivan and manu next week
15:35:25 <phila> https://w3c.github.io/vc-bitstring-status-list/
15:35:39 <denkeni> s/insurance/assurance/
15:35:57 <IvoLadenius> phila: aknowledged it bitstring status lists exsist as an editors draft, there are things in place to already change it
15:36:35 <IvoLadenius> phila: will put it on the agenda next week
15:36:46 <wes-smith> q+
15:36:49 <phila> ack wes-smith
15:37:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/07/29-vcwg-minutes.html TallTed
15:37:55 <wes-smith> https://github.com/w3c/vc-barcodes/pull/65
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15:38:01 <IvoLadenius> wes-smith: folks on this call that are doing threat modelling: we merged a threat model, will share a link to the pull request, please have a look
15:38:04 <phila> Topic: Digital Payment Credentials Update
15:38:09 <phila> https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/3e6dd8e5-0cfe-447d-a368-182d124ac8f5/
15:38:48 <IvoLadenius> phila: tomorrow is a meeting federated identity working group and digital payments group. an hour earlier
15:39:02 <IvoLadenius> phila: everybody from this group can join that call and please do
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15:39:57 <phila> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:39:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/07/29-vcwg-minutes.html phila
15:40:11 <phila> zakim, end meeting
15:40:11 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been manu, phila, hsano, dlongley, JennieM, pdl-asu, denkeni, TallTed, bigbluehat
15:40:13 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:40:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/07/29-vcwg-minutes.html Zakim
15:40:19 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, phila; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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15:41:00 <phila> RRSAgent, please excuse us
15:41:00 <RRSAgent> I see no action items