14:55:27 RRSAgent has joined #coga 14:55:31 logging to https://www.w3.org/2026/07/27-coga-irc 14:55:31 RRSAgent, make logs Public 14:55:32 Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference 14:55:39 date: 27 July 2026 14:55:44 chair: julierawe 14:55:48 present+ 14:55:54 regrets: Jennie, Eric 14:55:56 agenda? 14:56:05 zakim, clear agenda 14:56:06 agenda cleared 14:57:20 agenda+ Update on COGA review of WCAG 3 [10 minutes] 14:57:29 agenda+ Len idea for different way to review the remaining sections of WCAG 3 [20 minutes] 14:57:37 agenda+ Align on what COGA wants to say about 5 seconds of motion in WCAG 3 [20 minutes] 14:57:49 Lisa has joined #coga 14:57:51 agenda+ List of draft GitHub issues ready for voting by the COGA task force [10 minutes] 14:58:54 COGA review of WCAG 3: Here is the link to the section on status and scheduling: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jLkvaCNxpk1xJ-yuyTWciizRe3GkGWPc-3yu6ZJLIqg/edit?pli=1&tab=t.uggxirp4slpc#heading=h.egzcpf9lcdg2 14:59:19 Link to updated issue about 5 seconds of motion: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jLkvaCNxpk1xJ-yuyTWciizRe3GkGWPc-3yu6ZJLIqg/edit?pli=1&tab=t.7btf7qjplo1i#heading=h.ug544rrtrwde 14:59:42 Link to draft GitHub issues ready for voting: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jLkvaCNxpk1xJ-yuyTWciizRe3GkGWPc-3yu6ZJLIqg/edit?pli=1&tab=t.uggxirp4slpc 15:02:51 Jennifer has joined #coga 15:02:56 present+ 15:04:42 scribe: Jennifer 15:04:57 zakim, take up item 1 15:04:57 agendum 1 -- Update on COGA review of WCAG 3 -- taken up [from 10 minutes via julierawe] 15:05:48 present+ 15:08:09 LenB has joined #coga 15:08:16 Discussed AI-generated notes, which present privacy concerns, vs human-generated notes. Reach out to Kevin for guidance on AI notes 15:08:16 present+ 15:12:02 Action item: Julie to find out how to get permission for Charli's human note-taker to attend COGA meetings. 15:12:39 Lisa: Suggests outreach to Kevin or others to understand all concerns. John Kirkwood has experience in this space and is available to help. Julie: Human note taking shouldn't be a problem but AI notes would be. Len is offering to take notes without AI on a regular basis. Len mentioned it's hard to scribe and take notes at the same time. There may 15:12:39 be an opportunity to have someone join just for note-taking purposes --Julie to reach out to Charli's note-taker for details. 15:13:19 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jLkvaCNxpk1xJ-yuyTWciizRe3GkGWPc-3yu6ZJLIqg/edit?pli=1&tab=t.uggxirp4slpc#heading=h.egzcpf9lcdg2 15:15:44 q+ 15:16:58 tiffanyburtin has joined #coga 15:17:03 present+ 15:19:00 Reviewed WCAG status overall: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jLkvaCNxpk1xJ-yuyTWciizRe3GkGWPc-3yu6ZJLIqg/edit?pli=1&tab=t.uggxirp4slpc#heading=h.egzcpf9lcdg2. Planning to vote on a "general issue" today. Close to wrapping up Animation and Movement, Help & Feedback. Error handling and interactive components still require discussion. Text and 15:19:00 wording discussion needs to happen; working on scheduling for all involved. 15:21:09 Lisa, I will take a look, Lisa when you need 15:22:33 q+ to answer question 15:23:11 ack Lisa 15:23:20 Q- 15:23:40 present+ 15:23:40 Addressed that there are remaining 5 sections requiring review. Len proposes a different approach to these sections. 15:23:40 ack Rachael 15:23:40 Rachael, you wanted to answer question 15:24:18 +1 to Rachael comment about renaming the "Policy and Protection" section 15:24:27 Rachael: Policy and protection could be renamed 15:24:36 +1 to not set in stone yet. 15:24:41 zakim, next item 15:24:41 agendum 2 -- Len idea for different way to review the remaining sections of WCAG 3 -- taken up [from 20 minutes] 15:28:00 To date, COGA has asked for 1-2 volunteers to review the entire section and draft initial GitHub issues, and aligned on wording during Thursday meetings. Some sections are much longer than others, and the process is taking some time. 15:29:03 LenB has joined #coga 15:31:22 Len's "book club idea": We can set up a chunk of provisions to read before Thursday meetings. Instead of 1 person trying to take on the revisions, we can discuss as a group what the GitHub issues could be. 15:31:53 Q+ 15:33:47 ack Lisa 15:37:10 Julie: Recommends factoring in that 1 method may take longer than another. Lisa: Recalls working on the first issue together, and weren't able to finish a single provision after 3 hours. Suggests working meetings where we draft vs just review content. 15:41:00 Tiffany: Capacity issues make it easier to work on smaller sections of work. Buddies / teaming up are helpful. The amount of work is overwhelming. 15:42:01 John: Teaming up is really helpful; it's hard to work on these individually 15:42:33 Jennifer: I feel like the idea of a Claude approach is worth trying. I like being able to use the dedicated meeting time together to collaborate. 15:44:24 Correction: Jennifer said she likes the book club idea. (Julie misheard as "Claude.") 15:45:06 I’d use time already blocked 15:45:56 Julie requests that Len consider whether we should find another time for the "book club" approach, and how to chunk out the work into smaller sections 15:46:00 think overall 3 hours is too much 15:46:50 I cannot commit to 3 hours on Thursdays. However, I may be able to make most 1hr meetings if they are afternoon US. 15:46:52 Julie: Wordsmithing issues together takes a very long time. It's much easier to have a draft on hand to refer to. 15:48:12 Julie: recommends continuing the Thursday meetings to resolve open questions but reconsider another time for what remains 15:49:34 Q+ 15:49:58 ack Lisa 15:53:37 zakim, take up last item 15:53:37 I don't understand 'take up last item', julierawe 15:54:20 zakim, take up item 4 15:54:20 agendum 4 -- List of draft GitHub issues ready for voting by the COGA task force -- taken up [from 10 minutes via julierawe] 15:54:30 Lisa: We have a process in place so maybe we want to consider sticking with 1-2 draft reviewers but augmenting it with additional feedback. Group will reevaluate the review process/ consider next steps. 15:55:26 Julie: There are many GitHub issues to vote on. Julie will email about 2 sections (Help & Feedback, Error handling) to review together. 15:56:49 Julie: We can vote on interactive components next week to ensure there isn't too much to read through. As you're voting, add a +1 if you agree with the issue, a minus 1 if you don't, and a 0 if you don't have feedback. Don't add changes in suggested mode at this point. 15:59:25 Action item: julierawe to send the task force an email with the draft GitHub issues that are ready for the group to vote on. 16:00:04 Help and Feedback: 9 issues ready for voting. Use this link to get to those 9 issues: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jLkvaCNxpk1xJ-yuyTWciizRe3GkGWPc-3yu6ZJLIqg/edit?pli=1&tab=t.uubdkgkddw8k#heading=h.duq826e1a3p 16:01:08 Error Handling: 6 issues ready for voting: Use this link to get to those 6 issues: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jLkvaCNxpk1xJ-yuyTWciizRe3GkGWPc-3yu6ZJLIqg/edit?pli=1&tab=t.5gxd4veirbbq#heading=h.ymcsnl3ez101 16:09:43 Deadline for voting: End-of-day this Friday, July 31st 16:09:47 zakim, take up item 3 16:09:47 agendum 3 -- Align on what COGA wants to say about 5 seconds of motion in WCAG 3 -- taken up [from 20 minutes via julierawe] 16:10:18 We did not have time to discuss this today. Rescheduling this discussion for next Monday, August 3rd. 16:10:24 rrsagent, make minutes 16:10:26 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/07/27-coga-minutes.html julierawe 16:12:48 LenB has left #coga 23:00:07 kirkwood__ has joined #COGA