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14:04:05 <FranckC> meeting: Dataset Exchange WG
14:04:05 <FranckC> chair+
14:04:05 <FranckC> present+
14:04:05 <Jakub> present+
14:04:05 <RiccardoAlbertoni> present+
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14:05:59 <RiccardoAlbertoni> rrsagent, make log public
14:06:02 <Arofan> present+
14:06:11 <RiccardoAlbertoni> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:06:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/07/23-dxwg-minutes.html RiccardoAlbertoni
14:06:27 <FranckM> present+
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14:08:24 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Approval of last meeting's minutes (https://www.w3.org/2026/07/16-dxwg-minutes) -- taken up [from FranckC]
14:07:17 <RiccardoAlbertoni> Propose: accept last meeting minutes - https://www.w3.org/2026/07/16-dxwg-minutes
14:07:18 <Dan> present+
14:07:23 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1
14:07:26 <annette_g> +1
14:07:27 <roba> +1
14:07:28 <nicholascar> +0
14:07:29 <Simon> +1
14:08:05 <LarsG> +1
14:08:06 <Dan> +1
14:08:07 <steveR> +1
14:08:24 <FranckC> Zakim, open item 1
14:08:55 <Arofan> +1
14:09:27 <FranckC> RESOLUTION: accept last meeting minutes - https://www.w3.org/2026/07/16-dxwg-minutes
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14:10:03 <FranckC> Zakim, open item 2
14:10:03 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Task forces and deliverables (continued from previous meeting): TF Profile -- taken up [from FranckC]
14:10:45 <nicholascar> zakim, what is on the agenda
14:10:45 <Zakim> I don't understand 'what is on the agenda', nicholascar
14:11:04 <nicholascar> zakim, what is agenda
14:11:04 <Zakim> I don't understand 'what is agenda', nicholascar
14:11:13 <steveR> https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/cf468f73-53d3-4cd8-bb8a-eb534f47bc80/20260723T100000/edit/
14:11:16 <nicholascar> zakim, show the agenda
14:11:16 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda:
14:11:17 <Zakim> 1. Approval of last meeting's minutes (https://www.w3.org/2026/07/16-dxwg-minutes) [from FranckC]
14:11:17 <Zakim> 2. Task forces and deliverables (continued from previous meeting): TF Profile [from FranckC]
14:11:17 <Zakim> 3. Tools: GitHub repositories (see https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1641) [from FranckC]
14:11:17 <Zakim> 4. Tools: Wiki (https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Main_Page) [from FranckC]
14:11:17 <Zakim> 5. AOB [from FranckC]
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14:12:28 <nicholascar> q+
14:12:52 <nicholascar> ack me
14:13:18 <Simon> nicholascar: planning first draft of profiles document
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14:13:37 <FranckC> agenda?
14:13:42 <Simon> nicholascar: will be able to work asynchronously using GitHub
14:14:16 <Simon> nicholascar: expecting most of the editors to be participating
14:14:31 <Simon> nicholascar: in telecons
14:14:34 <FranckC> queue?
14:14:49 <Simon> s/profiles/profiles and connegp/
14:15:19 <Simon> roba: what are motivations for change? What are the important open issues?
14:15:56 <annette_g> q+
14:16:00 <Simon> nicholascar: SHACL WG has done narrower task, so needs to push up some issues to profiles doc
14:16:41 <Simon> nicholascar: some profiles roles and vocabulary updates needed
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14:17:11 <Simon> nicholascar: 'profiling' as a concept needs clarification in profiles document , 1-2 paras
14:17:20 <roba> q+
14:17:48 <Simon> nicholascar: i.e., small changes pushed up from SHACL WG
14:17:54 <Simon> ack: annette_g
14:18:14 <Simon> annette_g: what about items that are tagged 'note'?
14:18:39 <Simon> annette_g: if these move to REC then need a vote in this group?
14:19:08 <pchampin> q+
14:20:29 <Simon> roba: connegp is on REC track, promotion of profiles to RC track is mentioned in charter
14:20:33 <nicholascar> Charter: https://www.w3.org/2026/04/dx-wg-charter.html
14:20:44 <nicholascar> 3.3  Tentative Deliverables
14:20:52 <Simon> annette_g: thinks that they are not classed as REC
14:21:19 <Simon> nicholascar: we have interest and people to move to REC as foreseen in charter
14:22:05 <Simon> roba: profiles roles vocabulary is a 'register' of terms - would be better published as dynamic register rather than static document or file
14:22:11 <Arofan> If we want to be strict according to the wording in the chater, having interst and participants will lead us to "consider" the following actions. Does this still require agreement in the group? (I suspect this will be pro forma...)
14:22:50 <annette_g> The charter says "Depending on the interest and availability of Working Group participants, the Working Group may also consider: " these items
14:22:58 <Simon> antoine: the registry should be defined as part of the REC then it can be maintained dynamically
14:23:07 <annette_g> q+
14:23:29 <FranckM> q+
14:23:43 <Simon> present+ antoine
14:24:01 <Simon> roba: are their precendent?
14:24:07 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q+ to ask if there is already a timeline, Just to estimate when we will required to provide feedback on the stable drafts
14:24:07 <Simon> antoine: not aware of any
14:24:17 <roba> q-
14:24:20 <Simon> ack annette_g
14:24:56 <Arofan> I agree with Annette's reading here
14:25:08 <Simon> annette_g: charter allow for the group to _choose_ to moving notes to REC, which needs a vote
14:25:21 <Simon> s/needs/still needs/
14:25:51 <pchampin> ack pchampin
14:26:25 <Simon> annette_g: requires a registry - many ways to do this, considering the need for an API then we need detail so this isn't a big mess with multiple implementations
14:26:41 <roba> q+
14:27:01 <Simon> annette_g: early in WG is best time to clarify these issues
14:28:30 <Simon> roba: don't know of any registry precendents. Yes, would be helpful to formally agree to promote notes to REC
14:29:36 <Simon> roba: the concerns could be separated in the document, allowing for multiple implementations of registry - should be discussed in the connegp workforce - don't conflate connegp and prof
14:29:51 <nicholascar> The Register Track: https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#registries
14:30:01 <pchampin> q+
14:30:18 <Simon> s/antoine:/pchampin:/
14:30:41 <Simon> RiccardoAlbertoni: more detail on registry options?
14:31:00 <Simon> pchampin: registry is the way to make REC open ended
14:31:20 <roba> q-
14:31:36 <Simon> pchampin: registry defines what is information that must be submitted for registration of an item
14:31:39 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q- I can ask the question when the discussion is more mature
14:31:52 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q-
14:32:07 <Simon> pchampin: in case of extensible vocabulary this allows items to be added later
14:32:17 <roba> like the IANA link relations and media types registers
14:32:30 <Simon> pchampin: does not need to be maintained by the WG, can be delegated to a third party
14:32:51 <Simon> pchampin: new items in registry must not change conformance
14:32:54 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q?
14:33:00 <Arofan> Annette raised a point of process which was not yet addressed: do we need as a group to agree that the additional items in the carter will be carried forward? Does this require a vote? I am happy with Rob's answer's but the question still seems open to me.
14:33:00 <FranckM> q-
14:33:56 <Simon> q+
14:34:10 <Simon> ack pchampin
14:35:29 <Simon> simon: is annette_g asking for a proposal now?
14:36:05 <Simon> annette_g: not  now - wait until we have settled down the group so we can all consider the proposal
14:36:48 <Simon> FranckC: could annette_g join TF for one meeting to clarify goals?
14:37:25 <Simon> annette_g: need to make choices about concrete proposal so goals and choices are optimised
14:37:33 <FranckC> queue?
14:37:41 <Simon> q-
14:38:18 <Simon> topic: tools
14:38:19 <FranckC> agenda itrem 3
14:38:23 <pchampin> zakim, open item 3
14:38:23 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Tools: GitHub repositories (see https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1641) -- taken up [from FranckC]
14:39:36 <FranckC> Simon: describes issue https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1641
14:40:19 <FranckC> Simon: the proposal is to create seperate GitHub repository for each deliverable
14:40:46 <FranckC> ... easy for new documents, harder for existing ones
14:40:47 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q+
14:40:56 <Simon> ack RiccardoAlbertoni
14:41:20 <Simon> RiccardoAlbertoni: seems that there is a general consensus to go this direction
14:41:55 <Simon> RiccardoAlbertoni: DCAT has a long history in GitHub and with some associated Wikis, so will need some care
14:42:27 <Simon> RiccardoAlbertoni: we can agree in this meeting, and then figure out who is responsible for technical work
14:42:36 <pchampin> q+
14:42:44 <Simon> FranckC: DCAT is the most complex case
14:43:15 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q+
14:43:16 <Simon> should be easy for VVD and DQV
14:43:25 <Simon> ack pchampin
14:44:39 <Simon> RiccardoAlbertoni: could DQV history be transferred from earlier repo DWWG?
14:45:15 <Simon> pchampin: tools work better with one deliverable per repository
14:45:15 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://github.com/w3c/dwbp
14:45:35 <Simon> s/DWWG/dwbp/
14:46:08 <roba> can we rename, then create a new on with the old name that brings it in as a submodule?
14:46:18 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q+
14:46:31 <Simon> pchampin: current dx repo is dominated with DCAT - perhaps keep existing dxwg repo for DCAT
14:47:00 <Simon> RiccardoAlbertoni: need to preserve links from published papers
14:47:02 <Simon> q+
14:47:03 <pchampin> the URLs of issues would still work if we rename the repo (GH would redirect to the new URL)
14:47:57 <Simon> RiccardoAlbertoni: renaming github repo might break links?
14:48:12 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q-
14:48:17 <pchampin> ack Simon
14:48:46 <Simon> pchampin: links redirect, gh-pages don't
14:49:15 <Simon> Simon: for gh-pages, just need to leave a stub HTML with a redirect in the header
14:49:18 <roba> no objection - put to vote?
14:50:16 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q+
14:50:44 <Simon> everyone please review https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1641
14:51:06 <Simon> RiccardoAlbertoni: note that DCAT will require particular attention
14:51:26 <Simon> FranckC: plan to vote on the proposal in next meeting
14:51:54 <FranckC> zakim, open item 4
14:51:54 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Tools: Wiki (https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Main_Page) -- taken up [from FranckC]
14:52:40 <Simon> FranckC: Wiki needs a lot of update. Clarify - we are talking about the W3C Wiki _not_ GitHub artefacts
14:53:48 <Simon> FranckC: Antoine Isaac will propose how to clean up Wiki
14:54:08 <Simon> s/clean up/reorganise/
14:54:31 <Simon> FranckC: can anyone interested please send Antoine suggestions
14:54:32 <FranckC> zakim, open item 5
14:54:32 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- AOB -- taken up [from FranckC]
14:54:52 <pchampin> it's been a "short" meeting after all :)
14:55:02 <pchampin> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:55:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/07/23-dxwg-minutes.html pchampin
14:55:30 <Simon> bye
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14:55:41 <FranckC> bye
14:56:33 <pchampin> RRSAgent, bye
14:56:33 <RRSAgent> I see no action items