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12:54:42 <Zakim> Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
12:54:50 <julierawe> Meeting: COGA review of WCAG 3
12:54:56 <julierawe> chair: julierawe
12:55:02 <julierawe> date: 23 july 2026
12:55:06 <julierawe> present+
12:55:08 <julierawe> agenda?
12:55:16 <julierawe> zakim, clear agenda
12:55:16 <Zakim> agenda cleared
12:56:12 <julierawe> agenda+ Kirkwood question about links for COGA meetings
12:56:35 <julierawe> agenda+ Scheduling for the next few weeks
12:56:51 <julierawe> agenda+ User needs: Quick update on WCAG 3
12:57:02 <julierawe> agenda+ Animation: Align on updated issue about 5 seconds of motion, including new comment from Mary Jo
12:57:17 <julierawe> agenda+ Help and feedback: Align on updated issue about burden on memory
12:57:30 <julierawe> agenda+ Images and media: First discussion (if Eric is ready)
12:57:41 <julierawe> agenda+ Back-up option: Interactive components second discussion
12:57:57 <julierawe> agenda?
12:58:27 <julierawe> Scheduling link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jLkvaCNxpk1xJ-yuyTWciizRe3GkGWPc-3yu6ZJLIqg/edit?pli=1&tab=t.uggxirp4slpc
12:58:53 <julierawe> 5 seconds of motion link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jLkvaCNxpk1xJ-yuyTWciizRe3GkGWPc-3yu6ZJLIqg/edit?pli=1&tab=t.7btf7qjplo1i#heading=h.ug544rrtrwde
12:59:32 <julierawe> burden on memory link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jLkvaCNxpk1xJ-yuyTWciizRe3GkGWPc-3yu6ZJLIqg/edit?pli=1&tab=t.uubdkgkddw8k#heading=h.rhjlfc148kcp
13:06:21 <julierawe> present+ kirkwood
13:06:28 <julierawe> zakim, take up item 1
13:06:28 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Kirkwood question about links for COGA meetings -- taken up [from julierawe]
13:09:54 <julierawe> Kirkwood has multiple invites in his personal calendar for the Monday COGA task force meetings.
13:15:49 <julierawe> julierawe suggested that kirkwood delete all of his personal calendar's old/legacy COGA invites and start fresh to try to reduce the duplication.
13:20:00 <julierawe> zakim, take up item 4
13:20:00 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Animation: Align on updated issue about 5 seconds of motion, including new comment from Mary Jo -- taken up [from julierawe]
13:20:07 <julierawe> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jLkvaCNxpk1xJ-yuyTWciizRe3GkGWPc-3yu6ZJLIqg/edit?pli=1&tab=t.7btf7qjplo1i#heading=h.ug544rrtrwde
13:37:56 <julierawe> zakim, take up last item
13:37:56 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take up last item', julierawe
13:38:03 <julierawe> zakim, take up item 7
13:38:03 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- Back-up option: Interactive components second discussion -- taken up [from julierawe]
13:38:05 <julierawe> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jLkvaCNxpk1xJ-yuyTWciizRe3GkGWPc-3yu6ZJLIqg/edit?pli=1&tab=t.qrwl38yxhls4
13:48:51 <julierawe> present+ LenB
13:49:02 <julierawe> Group discussed issue 8 about expected behavior: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jLkvaCNxpk1xJ-yuyTWciizRe3GkGWPc-3yu6ZJLIqg/edit?pli=1&tab=t.qrwl38yxhls4#heading=h.t81nnfwhnuxv
13:49:46 <julierawe> Group discussed the example of the assertion about standard interface designs and whether it could be turned into a requirement.
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13:50:04 <LenB> present+
13:59:20 <julierawe> Group shortened the example so we only show the 3rd bullet.
13:59:25 <julierawe> Group aligned on wording.
14:06:06 <julierawe> Issue #9: Standard user interface designs for the platform are used when applicable.”
14:06:19 <julierawe> oops, wrong wording
14:06:24 <julierawe> Issue #9: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jLkvaCNxpk1xJ-yuyTWciizRe3GkGWPc-3yu6ZJLIqg/edit?pli=1&tab=t.qrwl38yxhls4#heading=h.n1gk82gatm3g
14:30:21 <julierawe> Discussion about issue #9 led us to update issue #5 with a paragraph about maps. julierawe will flag Lisa and Jennifer that they need to revote on this when we share with the task force.
14:32:54 <julierawe> Group discussed assistive touch and whether it needs to be explicitly mentioned in this guideline.
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15:09:33 <julierawe> Group aligned and voted on issue #9.
15:10:22 <julierawe> Group discussed issue #10: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jLkvaCNxpk1xJ-yuyTWciizRe3GkGWPc-3yu6ZJLIqg/edit?pli=1&tab=t.qrwl38yxhls4#heading=h.51y6l2csrzba
15:11:04 <julierawe> Lisa's concern about rolling back to older interfaces is mentioned in an issue we drafted for Help and Feedback issue. For this reason, we are removing this here.
15:11:29 <julierawe> Group discussed whether user testing is especially important for Expected Behavior guideline.
15:14:19 <julierawe> Group discussed whether to draft a general issue about what the logic is for requiring user testing in some guidelines and not in others.
15:20:12 <julierawe> Action item: Len to draft general issue about user testing
15:26:52 <julierawe> Group discussed Lisa comment about putting controls in industry standard locations and how this is a more specific requirement than what is in current draft of "Consistent control location"
15:29:02 <julierawe> LenB mentioned there is a platform standard but not an industry standard.
15:29:55 <julierawe> LenB: The consistent control location should be scoped to a particular product.
15:31:17 <LenB> I would recommend 'current platform' standard with respect to backawards compability.
15:58:45 <julierawe> Group aligned on a new issue called "Consistent control location."
16:05:59 <julierawe> rrsagent, make minutes
16:06:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/07/23-coga-minutes.html julierawe
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