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13:59:54 <john> Meeting: Invisible XML Community Group
14:00:07 <john> Date: 21 July 2026
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14:01:37 <norm> Meeting: Invisible XML Community Group
14:01:37 <norm> Date: 21 July 2026
14:01:37 <norm> Chair: Norm
14:01:39 <norm> Scribe: John
14:01:41 <norm> Present: John, Alan, David, Norm, Bethan
14:01:43 <norm> Regrets: Steven
14:01:45 <norm> rrsagent draft minutes
14:01:47 <norm> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:01:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/07/21-ixml-minutes.html norm
14:01:50 <norm> rrsagent, set logs world-visible
14:02:36 <john> Topic: Accept the minutes of the previous meeting
14:02:41 <john> Agreed
14:03:08 <john> Topic: Review of open actions
14:03:30 <john> 2024-03-05-c: SP to prepare pull request to resolve issue #139 (new grammars, new README)
14:03:30 <john>   Augmented by 2026-07-07, SP to replace his PR with three separate PRs.
14:03:30 <john>   Continues
14:03:39 <john> Topic: Status reports
14:03:47 <john> Bethan: Parser working
14:04:20 <john> Norm: been working on transpiling the core of Coffee into C#
14:05:02 <john> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:05:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/07/21-ixml-minutes.html john
14:05:25 <john> Topic: New issues
14:05:34 <john> None.
14:05:43 <john> Topic: Open issues
14:06:15 <john> + #369 Namespaces in test catalogue still point to GitHub
14:07:23 <john> Norm: suggests changing the namespace to http://invisiblexml.org/NS/test-catalog
14:07:34 <john> john: what about https: ?
14:07:57 <john> Agreed to use this namespace as http:
14:08:34 <john> ACTION: Norm to look into possible other namespaces in the test-suite (such as Michael's)
14:09:02 <john> + #368 Add a symbol for "epsilon", don't allow absence of a symbol to be epsilon
14:09:02 <john>   https://codeberg.org/InvisibleXML/ixml/issues/368
14:10:00 <john> Norm: I'm strongly in favour of this to avoid error issues such as Nt | | Nt
14:10:39 <john> Bethan: we can't use anything that is a name. We could use the empty string ''
14:11:20 <john> Bethan: It matches 'nothing'
14:12:27 <john> Norm: we don't permit empty strings at the moment
14:13:14 <john> John: define '' to parse as a term epsilon
14:16:11 <john> Some discussion about where it goes in the grammar
14:24:20 <john> Some (slightly heated) argument about whether epsilon could go inside character classes
14:25:03 <john> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:25:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/07/21-ixml-minutes.html john
14:26:18 <john> ACTION: Bethan to draft a discussion document
14:28:15 <john> Topic: Modularization
14:29:14 <john> Norm: I've been working on a document on use-cases for modularity. Any new ideas welcome. Hope to get something ready for next meeting
14:30:03 <john> Topic: Ambiguity
14:30:42 <john> Bethan: needs some category in the issue/PR space to collect those relevant to various types of ambiguity
14:41:07 <john> Next meeting: 18th August
14:42:27 <john> rrsagent, publish minutes
14:42:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/07/21-ixml-minutes.html john
14:43:29 <john> Topic: Next Meeting
14:43:50 <john> 18th August (skipping the one that would fall during Balisage)
14:44:19 <john> s/Next meeting: 18th August//
14:44:34 <john> rrsagent, publish minutes
14:44:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/07/21-ixml-minutes.html john
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