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13:50:11 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
13:50:23 <janina> Meeting: WAI-Adapt Teleconference
13:50:29 <janina> Date 07 Jul 2026
13:50:34 <janina> Chair: Janina
13:50:53 <janina> topic: Welcome & Administrivia
13:51:29 <janina> topic: DD
13:51:37 <janina> topic: AAC
13:51:47 <janina> agenda?
13:52:00 <janina> zakim, clear agenda
13:52:00 <Zakim> agenda cleared
13:52:15 <janina> agenda+ Welcome & Administrivia
13:52:20 <janina> agenda+ DD
13:52:26 <janina> agenda+ Symbols
13:52:34 <janina> agenda+ Be Done
13:56:52 <janina> present+
13:56:57 <janina> scribe+
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13:58:51 <janina> zakim, next item
13:58:51 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Welcome & Administrivia -- taken up [from janina]
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14:13:12 <janina> zakim, next item
14:13:12 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- DD -- taken up [from janina]
14:13:41 <janina> matatk: Notes we have PR from Abhinav
14:14:43 <janina> matatk: Will re-review as requested following Abhinav's adjustments in response to first feedback cycle
14:15:12 <janina> Abhinav: Incorporated a few, and commented on others
14:15:29 <janina> Abhinav: Noting duplication with spec and Explainer
14:16:23 <janina> janina: Just a comment -- we're best practices not normative
14:16:56 <janina> matatk: Yes, will live in the same repo and we can avoid duplication of content
14:17:03 <janina> matatk: But aimed at different audiences
14:17:32 <janina> matatk: Explainer shows design trade-offs and choices. That wouldn't go into our BP Note
14:18:04 <janina> matatk: e.g. we started with WKU
14:18:51 <janina> matatk: Have seen recent examples using WKU that seem to be headed into the concerns that disuaded us from that approach
14:19:18 <janina> matatk: We don't want sites figuring out their own way to solve that
14:19:56 <janina> janina: that argues for us figuring it out sooner not later
14:20:15 <janina> matatk: Yes, and TAG will help.
14:20:39 <matatk> matatk: For reference, TAG is collecting some related cases (no need to comment on this): https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1243
14:26:15 <janina> janina: Asks whether we might publish before TPAC?
14:26:35 <janina> matatk: We need to figure out subsites and also cross ref our DD with COGA
14:26:55 <janina> matatk: But FPWD before TPAC with an Editor's Note about the above
14:27:38 <janina> matatk: We want to avoid specifying UI and see what different implementors do
14:27:56 <janina> matatk: We probably want to be careful about how deeply we specify subsites
14:28:11 <janina> matatk: Some you might want to know from the root; others likely not
14:28:22 <janina> matatk: Figuring that out is important
14:28:35 <janina> matatk: subsites is different from all the others we have
14:28:51 <janina> matatk: How do we know the name? Do we show it?
14:30:00 <janina> matatk: Also, we're interested in moving to link sets later, so we should protect that prospective enhancement
14:30:52 <janina> matatk: If our approach takes off, link sets is a useful enhancement
14:31:29 <janina> Abhinav: we can add a discussion in the doc about what and why of link sets
14:35:23 <janina> janina: Asks about the UI implication?
14:35:41 <janina> matatk: It's about how much we reveal and where that could affect our backend
14:36:07 <janina> matatk: We will benefit from review sooner
14:37:19 <janina> zakim, next item
14:37:20 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Symbols -- taken up [from janina]
14:38:28 <janina> Russell: Update on font creation ...
14:38:38 <janina> Russell: Installed all and all appears functioning
14:38:58 <janina> Russell: All looking good!
14:39:10 <janina> Russell: Have had distractions in the form of crashed websites
14:39:46 <janina> Russell: Spec from Microsoft is over 2500pp, I've looked through it
14:40:59 <janina> Russell: 126 tags available to us
14:41:08 <janina> Russell: ccmp for emoji -- we should use
14:41:16 <janina> Russell: as opposed to liga for ligature
14:41:34 <janina> Russell: There's also a customization opportunity
14:42:11 <janina> Russell: Only codes we'll be using are Bliss space, so no conflict with emoji which have their own space inUnicode
14:42:40 <janina> Russell: Tool looks really good
14:42:54 <janina> Russell: We'll have to consider some choices, e.g. how color is used
14:43:55 <janina> Russell: We will have no need to install fonts, simply select which on the web
14:44:08 <janina> matatk: Pages can offer fonts
14:44:18 <janina> matatk: Not share they're shared across origins
14:44:35 <janina> Russell: Downloadable, but only grabs the gliphys needed
14:46:58 <janina> janina: Concerned that users have consistent fonts across sites for same meaning
14:46:59 <janina> matatk: We can work that out
14:47:11 <janina> Russell: Is so well known how to do this
14:47:55 <janina> matatk: Proposing font providers host on a CDN
14:48:23 <janina> matatk: How does page to know which to use
14:48:30 <janina> Russell: The browser knows
14:48:46 <janina> matatk: Page provides URI
14:49:05 <janina> Russell: Not, user's browser has a configuration with the URI
14:55:56 <janina> Russell: Weill be easy enough to gen fonts from this tool I'm using, so we can test approaches
14:56:16 <janina> matatk: Options always a good thing
14:59:12 <janina> zakim, next item
14:59:12 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Be Done -- taken up [from janina]
14:59:20 <janina> zakim, end meeting
14:59:20 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, Russell, Abhinav, matatk
14:59:23 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:59:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/07/07-adapt-minutes.html Zakim
14:59:31 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, janina; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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