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14:00:58 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Meeting: PEWG
14:01:05 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Chair: Patrick H. Lauke
14:01:10 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Scribe: Patrick H. Lauke
14:01:15 <smaug> (still a sec)
14:02:15 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/bc0bed33-fd93-40a6-95bb-10f27c641863/20260701T100000/
14:09:12 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Topic: Patrick to merge the event and init definitions...
14:09:33 <Patrick_H_Lauke> (Olli mentioned that it's Canada Day, which is why Google folks aren't here)
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14:11:23 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: just before our call, I did a very naive "smushing together" of the mouse init and mouse interface, ditto for wheel init and wheel interface, to follow our structure from pointer events
14:17:11 <Patrick_H_Lauke> [Group looks at the changes from https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/pull/648 - the first naive attempt at harmonising spec]
14:17:43 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: what do we do with the event definitions. mouse and wheel have those big tables (with lots of redundant info), while pointer events uses prose
14:17:58 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: prose is perhaps a bit too vague in places
14:18:25 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: yes, for instance for pointerenter it doesn't bubble, but it only mentions it in passing in a note
14:20:18 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: should we trim the tables for now? if so which rows we want to keep
14:20:27 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: bubble, cancelable, composed
14:21:01 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: context seems to apply to all events ...
14:21:13 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: so remove it, but do we need to keep it "somewhere"?
14:28:56 <Patrick_H_Lauke> ACTION: Patrick to continue in the harmonisation branch - introduce cut-down version of the tables for pointer events, cut out "unnecessary" rows from mouse and wheel
14:29:27 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Topic: Patrick to consider tweaking introduction/abstract...
14:31:09 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: no move on that yet, deferring until next meeting
14:31:38 <Patrick_H_Lauke> ACTION: Patrick to consider tweaking introduction/abstract to explain why mouse and wheel events are in the PE spec (and the first 3rd of the spec is devoted to mouse even though it's the PE spec)
14:37:29 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: keeping it short and sweet today. Thank you both. I'll continue work in the branch to clean things up
14:37:39 <Patrick_H_Lauke> RRSAgent, make logs world-visible
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14:37:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/07/01-pointerevents-minutes.html Patrick_H_Lauke
14:38:09 <Patrick_H_Lauke> RRSAgent, bye
14:38:09 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in https://www.w3.org/2026/07/01-pointerevents-actions.rdf :
14:38:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Patrick to continue in the harmonisation branch - introduce cut-down version of the tables for pointer events, cut out "unnecessary" rows from mouse and wheel [1]
14:38:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2026/07/01-pointerevents-irc#T14-28-56
14:38:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Patrick to consider tweaking introduction/abstract to explain why mouse and wheel events are in the PE spec (and the first 3rd of the spec is devoted to mouse even though it's the PE spec) [2]
14:38:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2026/07/01-pointerevents-irc#T14-31-38