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14:06:09 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
14:06:10 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), antoine
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14:07:34 <csarven> present+
14:07:52 <antoine> Scribe: annette_g
14:08:16 <antoine> Meeting: DXWG Teleconference
14:08:22 <antoine> Chair: Antoine
14:08:49 <annette_g> The participants pause quietly while gathering their thoughts.
14:08:52 <antoine> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/cf468f73-53d3-4cd8-bb8a-eb534f47bc80/20260618T100000/#agenda
14:08:52 <agendabot> clear agenda
14:08:52 <agendabot> agenda+ intros for these who were not here last time
14:08:52 <agendabot> agenda+ approve -> last week's minutes https://www.w3.org/2026/06/08-dxwg-minutes.html
14:08:52 <agendabot> agenda+ organisation of work: setting task forces for our deliverable - people indicating interest for contributing or following. NB: for a first stage, we foresee that the task forces are going to discuss their work withing the general call, to make sure everyone gets a chance to get familiar with
14:08:55 <agendabot> … the topics and determine their interest.
14:08:57 <agendabot> agenda+ physical meeting
14:09:00 <agendabot> agenda+ time slot: point on today's attendance and possible need to organise a call on a different time zone
14:09:03 <agendabot> agenda+ (if time allows) wiki page
14:09:23 <antoine> rrsagent, make logs public
14:10:26 <antoine> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:10:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/06/18-dxwg-minutes.html antoine
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14:11:37 <annette_g> Antoine: Regrets from Ricardo, Anna, and Peter
14:11:43 <antoine> Regrets+ Riccardo, Ana, Peter
14:12:03 <antoine> Regrets+ Albert
14:12:13 <antoine> present+ antoine
14:12:21 <annette_g> present+ annette_g
14:12:23 <csarven> present+
14:12:27 <Franck> present +Franck
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14:13:11 <antoine> zakim, who is here?
14:13:11 <Zakim> Present: antoine, nicholascar, csarven, dan, pwin, simon, amerono, Franck, RiccardoAlbertoni, Cotton, Jakub, Klimek, Joaquin, Luciano, Salvachua, Rodriguez, annette_g
14:13:14 <Zakim> On IRC I see fmichel, Dan, RRSAgent, antoine, annette_g, Franck, csarven, agendabot, Zakim, pchampin, rhiaro
14:14:07 <annette_g> topic: introductions, very short
14:14:45 <annette_g> Antoine: I am a co-chair of this group, was involved in previous iterations of this group
14:15:37 <csarven> annette_g: ??? Laboratory in US providing super computing for ??? Dept. of Energy. Was involved in earlier DX WG.
14:16:47 <annette_g> Dan: retired from US gov a year ago, worked for statistical agencies, longtime invovlement with DDI Alliance, the standard we'll be discussing. Was briefly involved with W3C Government Linked Data group.
14:17:05 <annette_g> s/???/Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory/
14:17:22 <annette_g> Franck: at National Institute in xxx?
14:17:44 <annette_g> Spent last year in international collaborations. Also contributes to other statistical standards.
14:19:06 <Franck> INSEE French National Statistical Institute
14:19:09 <antoine>  Arofan: I work for CODATA as a standards expert, especially with the Cross-Domain Interoperability Framework. I am a co-chair of the DDI-CDI WG, and historically was one of the primary developers of SDMX, acted as the SDMX contact for DataCube, and was involved in other DDI developments and the GSIM model (a key source for the variable cascade).
14:19:32 <Franck> https://www.insee.fr/
14:20:09 <annette_g> fmichel: also from France, CNRS and INRIA, background in semantic web. He will be an editor of the spec with Arofan.
14:21:40 <annette_g> csarven: W3C TAG member, worked in past on RDF data cube, government linked data working group. Publishes a lot of data from international agencies. Remembers counting 4% of linked open data cloud, tapping into apis. Also co-edits DDI RDF vocab. Nowadays works on Dokely.
14:22:15 <antoine> Topic: Last week's minutes
14:22:41 <annette_g> proposed: approve last week's minutes
14:22:42 <csarven> s|Dokely|dokieli ( https://dokie.li/ )
14:22:45 <antoine> https://www.w3.org/2026/06/08-dxwg-minutes.html
14:22:54 <annette_g> resolved: approve last week's minutes
14:23:07 <antoine> Topic: organisation work
14:23:12 <annette_g> topic: organization of work
14:24:31 <annette_g> antoine: we want to start gathering expressions of interest. We have some from even before the working group started to exist. We have some strong commitments for one of the specs already.
14:24:48 <annette_g> we'd like every group member to be able to express their interest.
14:25:29 <annette_g> We also want to make sure people can join the deliverables they want to. These will be discussed in the main call, like today's.
14:26:25 <annette_g> We feel that until the deliverables are clearly identified, we don't want to work in smaller groups. In fact, for now, we want to keep everyone together and informed about what's happening.
14:26:51 <annette_g> Any objections? None.
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14:27:37 <annette_g> We want to start working on the highest profile deliverables in the charter. Several are mentioned. For now we want to focus on the three main ones. Is this fine with everyone?
14:28:28 <annette_g> DVD, DCAT, and Data Cube are the three main ones.
14:28:44 <csarven> s/DVD/VVD
14:30:10 <annette_g> No objections raised.
14:30:28 <annette_g> Antoice suggests we go through each and see who is interested in it.
14:30:36 <annette_g> Starting with VVD
14:30:50 <annette_g> Dan: I'm willing to put work into it.
14:31:10 <annette_g> fmichel: how does it work at W3C?
14:31:31 <annette_g> antoine: chairs will not be editors but will be happy to nominate anyone who is willing to.
14:32:13 <annette_g> DCAT has had many editors, and they can change over time.
14:32:28 <annette_g> fmichel: what about task leaders?
14:32:55 <annette_g> antoine: e.g., creating group goals, not as formally defined as editorships.
14:33:06 <annette_g> it can be one of the editors who takes on the role of coordination.
14:33:29 <annette_g> Franck is also interested
14:33:48 <annette_g> Dan: can be a contributor as well as an editor
14:35:33 <annette_g> s/Franch is also interested/smichel is also interested
14:35:58 <annette_g> s/smichel/fmichel
14:36:59 <annette_g> s/Franck is also interested/fmichel is also interested
14:37:49 <annette_g> antoine: maybe we can distrubute responsibilities.
14:38:28 <annette_g> Arofan: I nominate Franck
14:39:20 <annette_g> antoine: one of the first items will be to nominate a chair of the call, when the group meets after some weeks.
14:39:41 <annette_g> antoine: How about DCAT?
14:40:15 <annette_g> We already have a message from Riccardo that he is interested in being an editor.
14:40:44 <annette_g> and also to do coordination
14:41:20 <annette_g> Franck: the minutes from last meeting mention he is also interested in data cube. Peter may also be interested.
14:42:02 <annette_g> s/interested in data cube/interested in DCAT
14:42:54 <annette_g> Franck: I would be interested in contributing to DCAT.
14:43:25 <annette_g> Dan: not sure that he can really contribute to that.
14:44:13 <annette_g> antoine: will try to follow DCAT.
14:44:37 <antoine> Arofan: I would also be interested in contributing, but mostly as an observer. (CDIF is implementing it...)
14:44:41 <annette_g> Arofan: will also contribute mostly as an observer (CDIF is implementing...)
14:45:12 <annette_g> antoine: Moving on to Data Cube
14:45:36 <annette_g> csarven: I would be interested in editing.
14:45:51 <Arofan> There is a new version of SDMX, also...
14:46:02 <annette_g> There are some gaps that need to be addressed.
14:47:03 <annette_g> I suspect those would be changes that don't break conformance, up through correction class 3 in the W3C process. For the future, we could introduce new properties. Those are low hanging fruits that would help implementors.
14:48:18 <Franck> I will follow the work on QB too, within the limits of my abilities
14:48:36 <annette_g> antoine: reminder of our charter wording for these, it focuses on maintenance for these things. Work that resolves an issue is needed. That doesn't mean we would rule out new ideas, but we don't want to make changes for the sake of changing.
14:49:04 <annette_g> Arofan: DataCube may have some issues with how concepts are used - this may need to be expanded to work well with VVD
14:49:20 <annette_g> should still be backward compatible
14:49:26 <antoine> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:49:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/06/18-dxwg-minutes.html antoine
14:50:49 <annette_g> csarven: W3C emphasizes keeping things working for the web community, so not just maintenance, we can introduce new features. New features can make a spec work better for the community.
14:51:22 <annette_g> That was something Phillippe clarified in a past meeting.
14:52:19 <annette_g> We do have some documentation for data cube. Maybe we should include in this discussion whether use cases need to be updated as well.
14:53:05 <annette_g> antoine: editors can make amendments to existing use cases and requirements.
14:53:31 <annette_g> csarven: the impression that I got was that there exists documentation of maintenence.
14:54:20 <annette_g> Franck: It's not all that clear, but I agree that it's fine to introduce new features if we don't break existing ones.
14:54:52 <csarven> https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#correction-classes
14:56:04 <annette_g> csarven: it's usually good practice to indicate this is a correction class 2 or whatever, so people know what they are looking for. I think the maintenance doesn't prohibit any of these from happening.
14:56:24 <annette_g> Arofan: At https://www.w3.org/2005/09/dd-osd.html  we have "maintenance (ongoing process for testing, errata, revision, permanent access)" - that is very flexible!
14:56:38 <annette_g> topic: physical meeting
14:57:21 <annette_g> antoine: Franck has sent a survey, and the majority cannot make it for either proposed meeting.
14:58:01 <annette_g> fmichel: how should we consider this at TPAC? Is it a separate meeting?
14:58:08 <annette_g> Arofan: I think it has to be separate.
14:58:33 <annette_g> antoine: we cannot say that we've organized a group meeting if not everyone can be there.
15:00:43 <annette_g> antoine: we have a few people missing. How is this time working? Annette?
15:00:48 <annette_g> annette_g: this time works for me
15:00:54 <antoine> rrsagent, please draft minutes
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15:01:03 <annette_g> Franck: I think the people that are missing are not missing for timezone reasons.
15:01:10 <antoine> rrsagent, please draft minutes
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15:01:33 <antoine> rrsagent, please draft minutes
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