12:09:15 RRSAgent has joined #apa 12:09:20 logging to https://www.w3.org/2026/06/10-apa-irc 12:09:20 RRSAgent, make logs Public 12:09:21 please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina 12:09:44 Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference 12:09:51 Date: 10 Jun 2026 12:09:56 Chair: Janina 12:14:21 agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements 12:14:21 agenda+ [TPAC 2026](https://www.w3.org/events/tpac/2026/tpac-2026/) 12:14:21 agenda+ New charters review 12:14:21 agenda+ New on TR 12:14:21 agenda+ [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues) 12:14:23 agenda+ [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues) 12:14:26 agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) 12:14:28 agenda+ Actions Checkin 12:14:31 agenda+ Other business 12:14:33 agenda+ Be done 12:21:38 wendyreid_ has joined #apa 13:56:57 present+ 13:57:12 PaulG has joined #apa 14:00:54 chiace has joined #apa 14:01:12 present+ 14:01:47 matatk has joined #apa 14:01:55 present+ 14:01:58 Crispy has joined #apa 14:02:15 Present+ 14:02:36 present+ 14:02:44 rrsagent, make minutes 14:02:46 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/06/10-apa-minutes.html matatk 14:02:53 present+ 14:03:44 scribe+ 14:05:06 zakim, next item 14:05:06 agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina] 14:06:59 janina Veriafiable credentials conventions. from Kevin is worried that they are not designed 14:08:04 Neha has joined #apa 14:08:19 present+ 14:08:24 JonCohn has joined #apa 14:09:11 present+ 14:09:23 zakim, next item 14:09:23 agendum 2 -- [TPAC 2026](https://www.w3.org/events/tpac/2026/tpac-2026/) -- taken up [from janina] 14:09:52 from chrishtr Janina, I need to have a convo with you about in-car digital interfaces. Have drafted some docs for W3C and more likely WCAG2ICT. Can we arrange something please? 14:10:56 matatk TPAC, he has a list of meetings, see the block of text pasted 14:11:01 Here are the meetings we (Roy, Janina, and I) propose: 14:11:01 1. Joint APA, ARIA, AG meeting to discuss cross-cutting challenges that come up (e.g. Carousels, HTML in Canvas, …) - could do this as a breakout in addition, or instead? 14:11:01 2. Join meeting with CSS and ARIA regarding HTML in Canvas outstanding issues. 14:11:01 3. MEIG & TTWG have requested a meeting with APA - we're very happy to join. What agenda might we have? 14:11:03 4. Would we want one with Publishing Maintenance (remember to put your comments on this review: ) 14:11:03 5. Meeting with CSS, or joining one of their sessions. (What issues could we address with CSS alone?) 14:11:03 6. Web and AI IG + RQTF regarding RQTF's AI document. 14:11:04 7. Kevin White proposed an APA + ARIA meeting also, which seems like a good idea. 14:14:42 q? 14:15:09 q+ to talk about Identity? 14:16:24 matatk 7 propose, read the block for extra info. By the 17th would be nice to have extra info and ideas 14:16:24 5. Are there any that we think we would like to join? 14:16:24 6. Interest Group that deals with AI on the web platforms 14:16:24 janina thinks that it is a good list, cross group meetings we would want to schedule like publishing and CSS because it is so unlikely we wouldn t have topics to talk about them 14:18:14 PaulG it is hitting the high points that we ve talked about over the last few months. Some of the big pushes between tag what work and wiki or Aria HTML. See what is the road ma, considering accessibility, talking about it 14:20:38 matatk I think your poin is really intresting and should be more explicit. I did not include what work, who will be represented at TPAC. The cross accessibility groups maybe a join meeting with CSS and ARIA. Regarding Html and canvas issues, I guess that we should really include that work 14:21:16 q? 14:25:40 PaulG The HTML and canvas, I am not sure if that is involving what would or not. This is probably one of the biggest Paradigm shift things I ve seen on the web in the past decade that seems to be saying a lot. This is fundamentally changing the caapabilities of what we do in a browser and potentially and basically rewriting Doom as TypeScript 14:25:40 for years just to show off the capability of 3D, processing and GPU, demos,... There will also be a lot of things potentially rewritten to make this way an app or components renders, or especially around things like virtualizing large datasets, eng challenge HTML if they can, basically not renderer that in standard. Renderer and then use. Catching 14:25:40 more efficiaent, faster use less memeory, all that studf. We're trying as part again to keep it accessible in the spec and then implement 14:28:48 matatk We need a fundamental paradigm shifts, which nis happening as well is the increased conflation of identity and the web on the increased sort of scrutinity and legal requirements around identity. Vartious different types of credentials. Impacts? Opportunities? Maybe ship in some areas with digital crediantals API. We ve got the Federated 14:28:48 identity working grouo, which does incubate that API 14:31:31 zakim, drop item 3 14:31:31 agendum 3, New charters review, dropped 14:31:33 zakim, drop item 4 14:31:33 agendum 4, New on TR, dropped 14:31:34 agaenda? 14:31:37 zakim, drop item 5 14:31:37 agendum 5, [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues), dropped 14:31:38 PaulG Web and AI, that's key. HTML canvas it is a big deal. CSS moves pretty methodical and it is not always fast cause I groom a particle so . new concepts, pseudo elements, classes, write selectors, accessible minded designer to write rules that apply to both the native new versions and legacy. Discussion for those patterns. 14:31:45 agenda? 14:32:21 zakim, next item 14:32:21 I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, chiace 14:32:24 ack me 14:32:24 matatk, you wanted to talk about Identity? 14:32:45 zakim, next item 14:32:45 agendum 6 -- [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues) -- taken up [from janina] 14:33:07 subtopic: Impact of AI technologies on Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group's mission 14:33:15 https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/326 14:34:02 q+ 14:35:05 matatk it is good to do things semantically. two different interfaces. But both of them present things in a structurd way. What is the impact of AI tech meaning LLMS and other ML models? AI agents? 14:35:05 they are asking about how those tech are impacting the scope of the clarieties of the work 14:35:20 q+ 14:35:38 matatk from AI road map 14:36:13 q+ 14:36:35 janina I think we have to talk about. I think we are not integrating AI enough. There should be a topic and there should be a change in how we do it 14:37:08 matatk this is not about how we work, it is about how does it effect the scope 14:39:05 ack janina 14:39:08 ack Roy_Ruoxi 14:39:08 janina I do not see this happening but I think there is an opportunity. WCAG has a cochairs with a well known to have a background in AI. We could benefit from that conversation, I'd love to see the topic in the room 14:39:09 https://w3c.github.io/webai-roadmap/ 14:41:45 Roy_Ruoxi this work start from Don ad I, Web AI roadmap things, starting from support AI specs in W3C. It is the beginning of this work. We see the AI tech ready, repeat, developed. If W3C specs got impacted by AI technology. Maybe we need to rething about the redevelopment of some tech, with some investigation to understand how AI impacts how we 14:41:45 all work or field. 14:41:50 q? 14:41:55 ack PaulG 14:42:57 q+ 14:44:37 ai and a11y have some overlap of requirements (e.g., semantics) but any anti-ai efforts will invariably affect a11y in the overlapping areas. This tension will persist and possibly grow. This tension can affect folks trying to use AI to overcome barriers. 14:45:00 PaulG for APA scope, AI and accessibility have some overlapping requirements. When I see AI efforts, we need to be aware on how designers, users, anyone. We need to provide examples, case study. Right now there are some sites and some hosting environments moving too quicly between pages gets you blocked. So if I were to describe using language 14:45:00 model, what I wantd to accomplish nd the language model was like the task, and not moving too quickly 14:46:48 matatk I just want to clarify you've actually suggested a lot of good stuff. there is a specific question: How does it effect the work of the group? How does it affectt the scope and the priorities of the work 14:48:04 matatk COGA, ADAPT task force does adaptation to contents. the research questions task force they are looking for the impact directly 14:48:17 q? 14:48:17 q? 14:48:24 q+ 14:48:38 ack matatk 14:48:44 scribe+ 14:50:03 chiace: A topic that has come up is training agents to check for accessibility, could train up a W3C-focused agent that knows about WCAG, for example. 14:50:25 janina: Personalized interfaces/agents are the next round of accessibility/AT. 14:50:31 topic: VC WG request 14:51:06 https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-render-method/ 14:52:53 Veriafiable Credentials Working Group is working on spec for rendering of veriafiable credentials for human consumption. They are looking for different options for different devices. They are asking if someone is available to partecipate from APA 14:53:50 PaulG AND janina Will take a look. 14:55:33 janina It sounds like a way for them to lock that in and control that. People will recognize patterns of like the padlock to tell you that it is secured HTTP. The important thing is that we follow WCAG 14:56:56 PaulG they have examples of HTM, how does it overlap with the Shackle UI? there are some overlaps about rendering, data structures, running dtaa shapes 14:57:32 zakim, end meeting 14:57:32 As of this point the attendees have been janina, chiace, matatk, Crispy, PaulG, Neha, JonCohn 14:57:34 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 14:57:35 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/06/10-apa-minutes.html Zakim 14:57:41 I am happy to have been of service, matatk; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye 14:57:42 Zakim has left #apa