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12:50:29 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
12:50:42 <janina> Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
12:50:49 <janina> Date: 03 Jun 2026
12:50:54 <janina> Chair: Matthew
12:50:59 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
12:50:59 <janina> agenda+ [TPAC 2026](https://www.w3.org/events/tpac/2026/tpac-2026/)
12:50:59 <janina> agenda+ New charters review
12:50:59 <janina> agenda+ New on TR
12:51:01 <janina> agenda+ [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues)
12:51:04 <janina> agenda+ [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues)
12:51:06 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul)
12:51:09 <janina> agenda+ Other business
12:51:11 <janina> agenda+ Be done
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14:00:44 <Dr_Keith> present+
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14:01:23 <matatk> present+
14:01:27 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:01:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/06/03-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:01:36 <janina> present+
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14:04:48 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:04:48 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
14:04:56 <janina> scribe+
14:05:03 <Neha> Neha has joined #apa
14:05:06 <matatk> subtopic: WAI Coordination
14:06:23 <janina> matatk: Notes restart of WAI Coordination calls
14:06:45 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/WAI/update/
14:06:54 <janina> matatk: Addressing issues that cut across WAI groups and common interests
14:07:06 <janina> matatk: Above link shows WAI activities
14:07:22 <Neha> present+
14:08:42 <janina> matatk: Notes a reprise of Authoring Tools Working Group is pending; proposed charter coming soon
14:09:20 <janina> matatk: Desire is to update with something normative, i.e. ATAG++
14:09:40 <janina> matatk: Will look at incorporating AI
14:09:57 <janina> q?
14:10:56 <janina> matatk: Please inform APA Chairs if something that should be a topic for WAI coordination
14:11:46 <janina> matatk: Notes WHAT-WG has regular meetings. Should some of us attend?
14:12:17 <matatk> q?
14:16:20 <janina> janina: I'll be attending IETF late July
14:16:28 <janina> janina: More to follow on that
14:16:58 <matatk> q?
14:17:06 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:17:06 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- [TPAC 2026](https://www.w3.org/events/tpac/2026/tpac-2026/) -- taken up [from janina]
14:17:40 <janina> matatk: Deadline looming to name who we want cross-group mtg with at TPAC
14:17:48 <janina> matatk: Due 17 June
14:18:24 <janina> matatk: Working on enhancing my scheduling tool from last year to be even more functional for us
14:19:27 <janina> matatk: Suggest reminding TF of the requested 17 June deadline
14:19:34 <janina> matatk: We should discuss next week here
14:19:39 <janina> q?
14:19:50 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:19:50 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- New charters review -- taken up [from janina]
14:20:42 <matatk> subtopic: Browser Tools and Testing
14:20:45 <matatk> scribe+
14:20:55 <matatk> Roy_Ruoxi: They are planning to drop AT-Driver
14:21:02 <matatk> Roy_Ruoxi: Have let ARIA know
14:21:12 <janina> Roy_Ruoxi: Notes effort (or accidental?) drop of A11y Driver
14:21:35 <janina> matatk: Definitely a concern; project seemed to be going well
14:21:58 <matatk> Roy's comment: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/558#issuecomment-4602323737
14:23:11 <janina> matatk: Notes David Burns pointed to another approach option; so discussion progressing over this
14:23:41 <janina> matatk: Don't think it's dropped officially yet or because it's flawed. Rather the usual time/resources
14:24:19 <matatk> q?
14:24:46 <matatk> agenda?
14:24:54 <matatk> zakim, close this item
14:24:54 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
14:24:55 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:24:55 <Zakim> 4. New on TR [from janina]
14:25:01 <matatk> zakim, drop item 4
14:25:01 <Zakim> agendum 4, New on TR, dropped
14:25:05 <matatk> agenda?
14:25:40 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:25:40 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues) -- taken up [from janina]
14:26:07 <matatk> subtopic: Digital Credentials
14:26:11 <matatk> due 2026-07-14
14:26:20 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/325
14:26:52 <janina> matatk: Is an API to facilitate presentation and verification of credentials
14:27:14 <janina> matatk: Could be wide ranging application
14:27:21 <janina> matatk: A concert ticket ...
14:27:32 <janina> matatk: A governmentally issued ID
14:27:48 <janina> matatk: Would integrate and store in a digital wallet
14:28:28 <janina> matatk: So api provides for some mediation and interaction
14:28:52 <janina> matatk: May replace holding a passport up to the camera
14:29:22 <janina> matatk: Could be age verification
14:29:26 <janina> q+
14:32:05 <janina> matatk: This not the selective disclosure of of verifiable credentials approach
14:33:05 <janina> matatk: Zero knowledge proof on the horizon -- would support selective
14:33:35 <janina> matatk: There are other systems
14:34:16 <janina> matatk: It's a complex area over all; this API is request and presentation of credentials
14:35:35 <janina> matatk: Work has been controversial; laws very; misuse a concern; but lots of legitimate use that could be empowering
14:36:09 <janina> matatk: W3C has chosen to be involved rather than not while work continued elsewhere
14:36:27 <janina> matatk: We need to focus on a11y; other groups will address other concerns
14:36:49 <janina> matatk: Some of what we might ask would be out of scope for our comment
14:37:27 <janina> matatk: We can still encourage use of more supportive approaches
14:37:58 <janina> matatk: the Accessibility Considerations section does include some normative provisions
14:38:11 <janina> matatk: We need to look for what might be missing
14:38:11 <matatk> q?
14:38:14 <janina> q?
14:38:18 <janina> ack ja
14:38:53 <matatk> q?
14:39:26 <janina> matatk: Status is beyond FPWD; is wanting CR
14:39:48 <janina> matatk: It's a formal review request
14:40:08 <janina> PaulG: Is the credential or the mechanism for accessing/mediating?
14:40:16 <janina> matatk: The latter -- the API
14:40:51 <janina> matatk: Certain ISO formats have been chosen by gov entities; so choices already made
14:41:50 <janina> paul: Is it challenge and wallet?
14:42:04 <janina> matatk: yes, both sides of the communication
14:44:00 <janina> matatk: My guess that this relies on browser UI; so browser for wallet management
14:45:48 <janina> PaulG: concerned how we manage for users who may have multiple wallets on multiple devices; how do you know what's what?
14:46:01 <janina> PaulG: potential for frustration is high
14:46:20 <janina> PaulG: You need confidence request is from a trusted source
14:46:40 <janina> q+
14:47:36 <janina> PaulG: may have passwords in multiple managers; this can get complicated
14:48:01 <janina> PaulG: User needs to know who's asking; and we need confidence our end to end concerns are covered somewhere
14:49:28 <matatk> janina: We need to know who's supporting what.
14:49:40 <matatk> janina: It's often not clear who's asking for a password, when you have n windwos open.
14:50:15 <matatk> janina: Password managers not always reliable; old credentials don't die easily
14:50:58 <matatk> janina: who's asking is important; if there's any challenge-response going on it's vital we can trust it
14:51:47 <janina> PaulG: agrees; who's asking and do we trust their request? How to get more detail because we're concerned over spoofing
14:53:14 <janina> janina: Also user initiated expire and delete
14:53:26 <janina> matatk: boundaries are unclear and important they be clarified
14:54:09 <janina> matatk: I'll distill into our tracking thread from these notes as we figure out next steps
14:54:23 <janina> matatk: Would be good for us to file issues and do so early
14:55:51 <janina> janina: similar to the notification with just an OK option; but no good access to content or Esc to dismiss
14:55:57 <janina> PaulG: What about COGA docs?
14:55:59 <janina> matatk: yes
14:56:28 <janina> matatk: This will come back for us to continue
14:56:38 <janina> matatk: Thanks for a good conversation
14:56:49 <janina> zakim, end meeting
14:56:49 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Dr_Keith, PaulG, matatk, janina, tsaulter, Neha
14:56:51 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:56:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/06/03-apa-minutes.html Zakim
14:56:58 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, janina; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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14:57:00 <janina> rrsagent, bye
14:57:00 <RRSAgent> I see no action items