IRC log of apa on 2026-06-03
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
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- Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
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- Date: 03 Jun 2026
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- Chair: Matthew
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- agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
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- agenda+ [TPAC 2026](https://www.w3.org/events/tpac/2026/tpac-2026/)
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- agenda+ New charters review
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- agenda+ New on TR
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- agenda+ [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues)
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- agenda+ [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues)
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- agenda+ CSS Update (Paul)
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- agenda+ Other business
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- agenda+ Be done
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- /join #rqtf
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- 14:00:35 [Dr_Keith]
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/06/03-apa-minutes.html matatk
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- present+
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- present+
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
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- scribe+
- 14:05:03 [Neha]
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- 14:05:06 [matatk]
- subtopic: WAI Coordination
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- matatk: Notes restart of WAI Coordination calls
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- https://www.w3.org/WAI/update/
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- matatk: Addressing issues that cut across WAI groups and common interests
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- matatk: Above link shows WAI activities
- 14:07:22 [Neha]
- present+
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- matatk: Notes a reprise of Authoring Tools Working Group is pending; proposed charter coming soon
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- matatk: Desire is to update with something normative, i.e. ATAG++
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- matatk: Will look at incorporating AI
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- q?
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- matatk: Please inform APA Chairs if something that should be a topic for WAI coordination
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- matatk: Notes WHAT-WG has regular meetings. Should some of us attend?
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- q?
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- janina: I'll be attending IETF late July
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- janina: More to follow on that
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- q?
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- [TPAC 2026](https://www.w3.org/events/tpac/2026/tpac-2026/) -- taken up [from janina]
- 14:17:40 [janina]
- matatk: Deadline looming to name who we want cross-group mtg with at TPAC
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- matatk: Due 17 June
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- matatk: Working on enhancing my scheduling tool from last year to be even more functional for us
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- matatk: Suggest reminding TF of the requested 17 June deadline
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- matatk: We should discuss next week here
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- q?
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3 -- New charters review -- taken up [from janina]
- 14:20:42 [matatk]
- subtopic: Browser Tools and Testing
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- scribe+
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- Roy_Ruoxi: They are planning to drop AT-Driver
- 14:21:02 [matatk]
- Roy_Ruoxi: Have let ARIA know
- 14:21:12 [janina]
- Roy_Ruoxi: Notes effort (or accidental?) drop of A11y Driver
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- matatk: Definitely a concern; project seemed to be going well
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- Roy's comment: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/558#issuecomment-4602323737
- 14:23:11 [janina]
- matatk: Notes David Burns pointed to another approach option; so discussion progressing over this
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- matatk: Don't think it's dropped officially yet or because it's flawed. Rather the usual time/resources
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- q?
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- agenda?
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 3 closed
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- I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 4. New on TR [from janina]
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- zakim, drop item 4
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- agendum 4, New on TR, dropped
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- agenda?
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 5 -- [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues) -- taken up [from janina]
- 14:26:07 [matatk]
- subtopic: Digital Credentials
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- due 2026-07-14
- 14:26:20 [matatk]
- https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/325
- 14:26:52 [janina]
- matatk: Is an API to facilitate presentation and verification of credentials
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- matatk: Could be wide ranging application
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- matatk: A concert ticket ...
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- matatk: A governmentally issued ID
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- matatk: Would integrate and store in a digital wallet
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- matatk: So api provides for some mediation and interaction
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- matatk: May replace holding a passport up to the camera
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- matatk: Could be age verification
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- q+
- 14:32:05 [janina]
- matatk: This not the selective disclosure of of verifiable credentials approach
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- matatk: Zero knowledge proof on the horizon -- would support selective
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- matatk: There are other systems
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- matatk: It's a complex area over all; this API is request and presentation of credentials
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- matatk: Work has been controversial; laws very; misuse a concern; but lots of legitimate use that could be empowering
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- matatk: W3C has chosen to be involved rather than not while work continued elsewhere
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- matatk: We need to focus on a11y; other groups will address other concerns
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- matatk: Some of what we might ask would be out of scope for our comment
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- matatk: We can still encourage use of more supportive approaches
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- matatk: the Accessibility Considerations section does include some normative provisions
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- matatk: We need to look for what might be missing
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- q?
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- q?
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- ack ja
- 14:38:53 [matatk]
- q?
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- matatk: Status is beyond FPWD; is wanting CR
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- matatk: It's a formal review request
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- PaulG: Is the credential or the mechanism for accessing/mediating?
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- matatk: The latter -- the API
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- matatk: Certain ISO formats have been chosen by gov entities; so choices already made
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- paul: Is it challenge and wallet?
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- matatk: yes, both sides of the communication
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- matatk: My guess that this relies on browser UI; so browser for wallet management
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- PaulG: concerned how we manage for users who may have multiple wallets on multiple devices; how do you know what's what?
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- PaulG: potential for frustration is high
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- PaulG: You need confidence request is from a trusted source
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- q+
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- PaulG: may have passwords in multiple managers; this can get complicated
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- PaulG: User needs to know who's asking; and we need confidence our end to end concerns are covered somewhere
- 14:49:28 [matatk]
- janina: We need to know who's supporting what.
- 14:49:40 [matatk]
- janina: It's often not clear who's asking for a password, when you have n windwos open.
- 14:50:15 [matatk]
- janina: Password managers not always reliable; old credentials don't die easily
- 14:50:58 [matatk]
- janina: who's asking is important; if there's any challenge-response going on it's vital we can trust it
- 14:51:47 [janina]
- PaulG: agrees; who's asking and do we trust their request? How to get more detail because we're concerned over spoofing
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- janina: Also user initiated expire and delete
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- matatk: boundaries are unclear and important they be clarified
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- matatk: I'll distill into our tracking thread from these notes as we figure out next steps
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- matatk: Would be good for us to file issues and do so early
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- janina: similar to the notification with just an OK option; but no good access to content or Esc to dismiss
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- PaulG: What about COGA docs?
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- matatk: yes
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- matatk: This will come back for us to continue
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- matatk: Thanks for a good conversation
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- zakim, end meeting
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- As of this point the attendees have been Dr_Keith, PaulG, matatk, janina, tsaulter, Neha
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/06/03-apa-minutes.html Zakim
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- I am happy to have been of service, janina; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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- Zakim has left #apa
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see no action items