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15:47:39 <AndyS> zakim, start meeting
15:47:39 <AndyS> rrsagent, make logs public
15:47:40 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
15:47:41 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), AndyS
15:47:54 <AndyS> meeting: RDF and SPARQL Working Group
15:50:05 <AndyS> agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/11e4d020-9c58-4fff-83c5-37c9e2502295/20260514T120000/#agenda
15:50:05 <AndyS> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/05/07-rdf-star-minutes.html
15:50:05 <AndyS> next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/05/21-rdf-star-minutes.html
15:50:05 <agendabot> clear agenda
15:50:05 <agendabot> agenda+ Approval of the minutes from two weeks ago -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2026/04/30-rdf-star-minutes.html
15:50:05 <agendabot> agenda+ Informal discussiones last week -> 2 https://www.w3.org/2026/05/07-rdf-star-minutes.html
15:50:05 <agendabot> agenda+ TPAC & ISWC 2026 -> 3 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2026AprJun/0042.html  -> 4 https://iswc2026.semanticweb.org/
15:50:07 <agendabot> agenda+ Review of open PRs, available at -> 5 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/4
15:50:10 <agendabot> agenda+ Identifying issues to solve before CR -> 6 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/8
15:50:13 <agendabot> agenda+ Any Other Business (AOB), time permitting
15:50:19 <AndyS> rrsagent, make logs public
15:50:21 <AndyS> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:50:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/05/14-rdf-star-minutes.html AndyS
15:59:20 <Tpt> regrets+
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16:01:03 <AndyS> agenda?
16:01:09 <ora> present+
16:01:12 <ora> chair+
16:01:15 <Dominik_T> present+
16:01:36 <niklasl> present+
16:01:41 <ktk> regrets+ souri
16:02:04 <ktk> regrets+ olaf, james, fsasaki
16:02:14 <ktk> regrets+ jj
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16:02:43 <pfps> present+
16:02:53 <pchampin> present+
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16:03:33 <tl> present+
16:03:53 <william-vw> present+
16:03:55 <william-vw> Ha!
16:05:15 <tl> omg
16:05:41 <ktk> Zakim, open item 1
16:05:41 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Approval of the minutes from two weeks ago -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2026/04/30-rdf-star-minutes.html -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:06:09 <pfps> minutes look acceptable to me
16:06:22 <ora> PROPOSAL: Approve minutes of 2026-04-30
16:06:32 <gtw> +1
16:06:34 <Dominik_T> +0 (not present)
16:06:36 <niklasl> +1
16:06:36 <william-vw> +1
16:06:37 <ktk> +0 (not available)
16:06:37 <AndyS> +1
16:06:38 <tl> +1
16:06:48 <ora> +1
16:07:11 <pchampin> +0 (I was not there)
16:07:30 <pfps> +1
16:07:31 <TallTed> +1
16:07:33 <ora> RESOLVED: Approve minutes of 2026-04-30
16:07:35 <ktk> Zakim, next item
16:07:35 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Informal discussiones last week -> 2 https://www.w3.org/2026/05/07-rdf-star-minutes.html -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:09:06 <tl> andyS: we had a good discussion on RDF/XML, difficult problem, but envisioned solution seems to work
16:09:15 <ktk> q+
16:09:32 <AndyS> scribe+ tl
16:09:40 <ora> ack ktk
16:10:22 <tl> ktk: should we reserve bi-weekly meetings for discussions like we did in the past?
16:10:41 <tl> andys: support this idea
16:10:53 <tl> ora: maybe re-curring agenda item
16:11:02 <ktk> Zakim, next item
16:11:11 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- TPAC & ISWC 2026 -> 3 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2026AprJun/0042.html  -> 4 https://iswc2026.semanticweb.org/ -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:11:12 <tl> ktk: will be discussed in next chair meeting, proposal fortcoming
16:11:31 <pfps> Although I woudn't be going to TPAC in any case, the timing stinks!
16:11:44 <tl> ktk: TPAC same date as ISWC
16:12:44 <pchampin> q+
16:12:46 <tl> ... almost the same time zone. maybe have a joined virtual session
16:12:59 <ktk> ack pchampin
16:13:06 <tl> ora: i wlll be at ISWC
16:13:57 <tl> pchampin: will be at TPAC which is a good place top have working group meetings. observers in dublin might be interested
16:13:58 <ora> q+
16:14:03 <ora> ack ora
16:14:19 <tl> ... might be a good opportunity to get more people in
16:14:52 <tl> ora: try to get a joined meeting on the ISWC agenda
16:16:13 <tl> ... program commitee is not visible on the website. will email chairs
16:16:32 <AndyS> q+
16:16:50 <ktk> ack AndyS
16:17:20 <tl> andys: TPAC general plenary is on wednesday which would be bad for telco
16:18:00 <ktk> q?
16:18:45 <pchampin> ACTION ora to email the ISWC organizers
16:18:47 <pchampin> ACTION: ora to email the ISWC organizers
16:18:54 <gb> Created -> action #190 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/190
16:19:00 <ktk> Zakim, next item
16:19:00 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Review of open PRs, available at -> 5 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/4 -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:19:01 <pchampin> s/ACTION ora to email the ISWC organizers/
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16:24:17 <niklasl> This one: https://github.com/w3c/rdf-common/pull/16
16:24:18 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-common/pull/16 -> Pull Request 16 fix error when generating doc with Respec 37.0 (by pchampin)
16:24:28 <AndyS> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-common/pull/16
16:26:02 <tl> pchampin: will merge pr
16:26:34 <ktk> s/wlll/will/
16:30:16 <tl> ora: 327 review needed
16:30:25 <tl> andys: and fixes as well
16:32:56 <tl> ora: a lot of dark mode issues, little of "substance"
16:33:05 <tl> ... not a complaint!
16:33:27 <tl> ktk: do we get towards the end, or is there some stuff hidden somewhere?
16:33:46 <tl> andys: still a lot of sparql errata
16:33:46 <pchampin> q+
16:33:51 <tl> ora: anything we can do to help?
16:33:53 <ora> ack pchampin
16:33:55 <AndyS> q+
16:34:51 <tl> pchampin: we are not entirly done with the TAG discussion. i'm working on a PR to document the discussion
16:34:56 <niklasl> q+
16:35:08 <ora> ack AndyS
16:35:15 <ora> ack niklasl
16:35:26 <niklasl> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/189
16:35:27 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/189 -> Issue 189 Consolidate advice about versions of RDF syntax and HTTP access (by niklasl) [needs discussion] [ms:CR]
16:35:47 <tl> niklas: there is an issue about versions that still needs work
16:35:56 <pchampin> +1 thanks, will report on that issue
16:36:34 <tl> ktk: mailinglist follow up needed?
16:36:42 <AndyS> q+
16:36:46 <tl> ... andy just replied today
16:36:49 <ora> ack AndyS
16:38:38 <pchampin> q+
16:41:14 <lisp> q+
16:41:24 <pchampin> q-
16:41:49 <ora> ack lisp
16:42:33 <ktk> Zakim, next item
16:42:33 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Identifying issues to solve before CR -> 6 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/8 -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:43:33 <pchampin> q+
16:43:44 <ora> ack pchampin
16:44:38 <tl> pchampin: 98% passing sparql implementation in sophia, ready to submit an implementatuion report
16:44:56 <ora> s/implementatuion/implementation
16:45:50 <ktk> s/implementatuion/implementation/
16:46:02 <tl> ... will very soon be available on github
16:46:21 <pchampin> q+
16:46:45 <ora> ack pchampin
16:47:10 <AndyS> q+
16:47:18 <ora> ack AndyS
16:47:27 <tl> ... i received an email from graphwise, complaining that the test suite doesn't include the version - so they are looking at the test suite
16:47:47 <tl> ... they opened an issue a few days ago
16:48:11 <pchampin> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/issues/331
16:48:12 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/issues/331 -> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/issues/331
16:51:50 <ktk> q?
16:53:18 <ktk> Zakim, next item
16:53:18 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Any Other Business (AOB), time permitting -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:54:42 <tl> ktk: seems like oracle is working on a 1.2 implementation
16:55:00 <tl> ... on qlever it is not prioratized
16:55:16 <tl> andys: tentris will probably follow as well
16:55:34 <tl> ... jena supports it in 6.1 release
16:55:50 <tl> tallted: [xxx]
16:56:20 <tl> andys: oxigraph did it, communica as well
16:56:36 <tl> ora: wil follow up with stardog
16:56:48 <tl> andys: rdflib are working on it
16:57:19 <tl> ... rubyrdf has 1.2 stuff in it
16:57:38 <AndyS> s/communica/comunica/
16:58:05 <ktk> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:58:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/05/14-rdf-star-minutes.html ktk
16:58:13 <pchampin> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:58:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/05/14-rdf-star-minutes.html pchampin
16:58:19 <tl> ktk: KGC had good presentations, interesting questions
16:59:49 <ktk> s/discussiones/discussions/
16:59:50 <ktk> s/re-curring/recurring/
16:59:50 <ktk> s/fortcoming/forthcoming/
16:59:50 <ktk> s/woudn't/wouldn't/
16:59:50 <ktk> s/top have/to have/
16:59:52 <ktk> s/commitee/committee/
16:59:55 <ktk> s/entirly/entirely/
16:59:57 <ktk> s/mailinglist/mailing list/
17:00:00 <ktk> s/prioratized/prioritized/
17:00:02 <ktk> s/wil follow/will follow/
17:00:05 <ktk> s/implementatuion/implementation/
17:00:08 <ktk> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:00:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/05/14-rdf-star-minutes.html ktk
17:03:41 <TallTed> s/tallted: [xxx]/tallted: latest internal builds of Virtuoso passed all tests as of a few weeks ago. I don't know whether that's reflected in currently available downloads.
17:03:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/05/14-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed