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14:53:22 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio
14:53:36 <Fazio> meeting: Maturity Model Task Force
14:53:49 <Fazio> chair: David Fazio
14:55:10 <Fazio> Agenda+ New Business
14:55:10 <Fazio> Agenda+ Task Review rewrite related to Github Issues #328 and #334 #345
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15:05:31 <JeffAdams-UN> zakim, next item
15:05:31 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio]
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15:07:16 <JeffAdams-UN> janina: AMM came up in the WCAG meeting yesterday and it was noted for what it does around process and how an org matures
15:08:23 <JeffAdams-UN> janina: there could be a kind of digital maturity for content creation
15:08:51 <JeffAdams-UN> Mark_Miller: it could be an additive dimension
15:11:10 <JeffAdams-UN> Sheri_B-H: Feels content creation is already covered in AMM. Social media comes in Communications. A lot of other content comes under ICT lifecycle. So it could be expanded.
15:17:20 <JeffAdams-UN> zakim, next item
15:17:20 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Task Review rewrite related to Github Issues #328 and #334 #345 -- taken up [from Fazio]
15:20:14 <Sheri_B-H> David read out the current abstract
15:24:16 <Sheri_B-H> Jeff reviewed Kevin's ticket and talked about reducing sales-y ness
15:26:21 <Sheri_B-H> Jeff read out current proposed abstract.
15:29:15 <Sheri_B-H> Discussion around missing sentence on customizability and extensibility
15:30:35 <Sheri_B-H> Sheri_B-H: second paragraph needs to be broken up
15:30:52 <Mark_Miller> q+
15:31:05 <Sheri_B-H> janina: second paragraph might be too much towards implementation details , maybe it should go into the intro?
15:32:48 <SusiPallero> +1
15:32:52 <Sheri_B-H> Mark_Miller: last paragraph - should we drop what to do to get there?
15:32:57 <Sheri_B-H> general agreement
15:34:49 <Sheri_B-H> proposed including "outcomes" in the abstract
15:36:29 <Sheri_B-H> JeffAdams-UN: Janina mentioned the second paragraph should go into the intro.
15:36:43 <Sheri_B-H> janina:it's too much for the abstract
15:37:02 <Sheri_B-H> JeffAdams-UN: keep the abstract tight
15:37:59 <SusiPallero> q+
15:38:15 <Sheri_B-H> ack Mark_Miller
15:39:05 <Sheri_B-H> SusiPallero: is outcome the expected results, or the actions needed to get there
15:39:43 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio: this document is not normative, so we are less prescriptive.  Outcome is the expected results in this case
15:41:21 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio: read the beginning of the current intro
15:44:08 <Fazio> q?
15:44:17 <Sheri_B-H> ack SusiPalleroq
15:44:23 <Sheri_B-H> ack SusiPallero
15:44:32 <Sheri_B-H> (sorry forgot to take her off the queue previously)
15:47:31 <Sheri_B-H> Sheri_B-H: some of the sales-yness was intentional.  We needed to answer the question What's In It For Me ("me" being the person reading the abstract)  The reader may have already done a lot of work to make a product accessible, and needs to be convinced that they need to do more to keep it accessible
15:47:46 <Sheri_B-H> Sheri_B-H: but we can always convey the same info differently
15:48:09 <Sheri_B-H> JeffAdams-UN: About needs to come back
15:48:42 <Sheri_B-H> janina: we could make them sibling sections, as opposed to subsections
15:49:01 <Sheri_B-H> janina: understanding maturity, understanding THIS maturity model
15:49:44 <Sheri_B-H> JeffAdams-UN: some of the about stuff got moved into the "how to use", we would need to bring that back
15:50:00 <Sheri_B-H> Mark_Miller: maybe we need to step back and define what each of these sections needs to be
15:50:01 <Fazio> q?
15:51:13 <Sheri_B-H> Mark_Miller: and then make the information fit the definition
15:52:06 <Sheri_B-H> JeffAdams-UN: what do we have to have to do to meet W3C standards (to stay consistent with other abstracts and intros)
15:53:50 <Sheri_B-H> Sheri_B-H: is there a published document that we like for layout and style we should emulate?
15:56:04 <Sheri_B-H> janina: will look for one she likes
15:56:11 <Fazio> q?
15:56:51 <janina> https://a11yedge.github.io/capabilities/
15:58:01 <Sheri_B-H> zakim, end meeting
15:58:01 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Fazio, CharlesL, Neha, Crispy, JeffAdams-UN, stacey, janina, Sheri_B-H, Mark_Miller, SusiPallero
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15:58:10 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Sheri_B-H; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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