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12:49:21 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
12:49:22 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
12:49:37 <janina> Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
12:49:45 <janina> Date: 13 May 2026
12:49:50 <janina> Chair: Janina
12:51:58 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
12:51:58 <janina> agenda+ [TPAC 2026](https://www.w3.org/events/tpac/2026/tpac-2026/)
12:51:58 <janina> agenda+ [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues)
12:51:58 <janina> agenda+ [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues)
12:51:59 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul)
12:52:01 <janina> agenda+ Other business
12:52:03 <janina> agenda+ Be done
12:56:38 <janina>  /join #rqtf
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13:58:49 <thelounge> present+
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14:02:07 <Fazio> present+
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14:02:11 <matatk> present+
14:02:24 <janina> present+
14:02:33 <Neha> present+
14:03:11 <Neha> scribe+
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14:03:20 <Neha> agenda
14:03:33 <Cruspy> Present+
14:03:45 <Neha> zakim, agenda
14:03:47 <Zakim> I don't understand 'agenda', Neha
14:04:09 <Neha> zakim next item
14:04:19 <Neha> zakim, next item
14:04:19 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
14:05:14 <Neha> zakim, next item
14:05:14 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, Neha
14:05:30 <Neha> zakim, close this item
14:05:30 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
14:05:31 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:05:31 <Zakim> 2. [TPAC 2026](https://www.w3.org/events/tpac/2026/tpac-2026/) [from janina]
14:05:39 <Neha> zakim, next item
14:05:39 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- [TPAC 2026](https://www.w3.org/events/tpac/2026/tpac-2026/) -- taken up [from janina]
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14:06:00 <matatk> https://www.sovereign.tech/programs/standards
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14:07:10 <Neha> Opportunity of funding for open source contributor to join TPAC 2026
14:07:15 <JonCohn> present+
14:07:26 <chiace> present+
14:07:55 <Neha> Paul: It is still not working and still spinning after submitting
14:08:03 <Neha> q?
14:10:26 <Neha> janina: we will work on meetings agenda for TPAC 2026 soon
14:10:49 <matatk> agenda?
14:10:59 <Neha> zakim, take item 5
14:10:59 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take item 5', Neha
14:11:04 <Neha> zakim, take item up 5
14:11:04 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take item up 5', Neha
14:11:15 <Neha> zakim, take up item 5
14:11:15 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- CSS Update (Paul) -- taken up [from janina]
14:11:28 <PaulG> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/9706
14:12:22 <matatk> q+
14:12:52 <Neha> Paul: we will get to this today, psuedo classes usage
14:12:54 <janina> ack ma
14:13:34 <PaulG> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/12659
14:14:39 <matatk> q+
14:15:16 <matatk> ack me
14:15:19 <janina> ack ma
14:15:25 <Neha> PaulG : How and where aria-current atttribute should be implemented
14:17:02 <Neha> matatk: Carausol usecase is bad usecase, but if they are doing it here it should be at other places as well, because consistency is needed
14:17:38 <Neha> PaulG: They want to use aria-current=true, but it is not focusable it is of no use
14:18:47 <Neha> matatk: Let Paul ask questions from his side and then we can check from APA side
14:19:41 <Neha> janina: Can we ask - all Paul questions are APA questions?
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14:21:45 <Neha> matatk: APA answer-Should :checked and :indeterminate be exclusive? - yes they should be exclusive to match with ARIA and in future please make a match with CSS pesudo classes
14:23:16 <janina> q?
14:23:31 <Neha> PaulG: yes keep them exclusive and we want to see a separate proposal to match with CSS pseudo classes
14:25:01 <Neha> PaulG: summarizing both issues for stevef
14:26:02 <PaulG> (article with example code https://www.sarasoueidan.com/blog/css-scrollspy/)
14:26:16 <matatk> q+
14:27:07 <Neha> stevef: aria-current why do we have to label it?
14:28:39 <janina> ack ma
14:28:48 <Neha> stevef: It is sounding incorrect to add aria-current in DOM tree
14:29:09 <Neha> matatk: They are just proposing to add semantics
14:29:10 <matatk> ack me
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14:30:23 <Neha> janina: not so fast from APA side
14:31:02 <Neha> janina: for the second issue
14:31:40 <Neha> stevef: what ARIA WG take on this
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14:33:04 <Neha> zakim, next item
14:33:04 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- [TPAC 2026](https://www.w3.org/events/tpac/2026/tpac-2026/) -- taken up [from janina]
14:33:23 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:33:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/05/13-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:33:31 <Neha> zakim, take up item 3
14:33:31 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues) -- taken up [from janina]
14:33:50 <matatk> topic: New on TR
14:33:55 <Roy_Ruoxi> subtopic: Recognized Entities v1.0
14:33:55 <Roy_Ruoxi> - spec: https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-recognized-entities-1.0/
14:33:55 <Roy_Ruoxi> - tracker: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-longitudinal-tracking/issues/47
14:34:12 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:34:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/05/13-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:34:30 <Neha> Roy_Ruoxi: new publication
14:35:02 <Neha> Roy_Ruoxi: they want to define data model for entity
14:36:22 <Neha> janina: it is way below structure and we are fine with this unless someone wants to take a dig in it
14:36:24 <matatk> agenda?
14:36:36 <Neha> zakim, take up item 4
14:36:36 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues) -- taken up [from janina]
14:37:46 <janina> regrets: Eric_Hind, Gottfried_Zimmerman, Dr_Keith_Newton, Jennifer_Strickland, Tiffany_Saulter
14:37:59 <matatk> subtopic: WebMCP Accessibility Considerations
14:38:02 <Neha> matatk: people should read these issues as these are from agentic web  and accessibility
14:38:07 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/318
14:39:48 <Neha> MCP protocol for agents to communicate
14:40:20 <janina> NOTE: MCP = Model Context Protocol
14:41:58 <Neha> matatk: agents using this protocol, respect ARIA, this discussion in early stage, it is better to start participation
14:42:13 <PaulG> keep in mind that WebMCP may get tied to Goolge's https://github.com/google/A2UI where agents generate UI on demand. I've been opening accessibility issues there because it's extremely naive.
14:42:14 <Neha> janina: Do we have a timeframe on it?
14:44:04 <Neha> PaulG: code ot UI generated with this is still not accessible for AT users
14:44:22 <matatk> q?
14:44:31 <Neha> PaulG: will keep an eye on this
14:44:53 <matatk> subtopic: Redundancy with the accessibility tree
14:45:03 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/317
14:46:11 <Neha> matatk: if agents should get all the things that they need for accessibility tree is a point of discussion
14:46:42 <janina> q+
14:47:57 <matatk> ack janina
14:48:01 <Neha> matatk: there are a couple of other items in the discussion and please read through it and add your thoughts to tracking issue
14:49:09 <Neha> janina: isn't is creates a semantic structure already ?
14:49:58 <Neha> matatk: do we need any technical protocol for communicate or we already have all this information from accessibility tree
14:50:10 <janina> ack ja
14:50:24 <Neha> matatk": this is the question and read it to hve more thoughts on it
14:50:27 <Neha> q:
14:50:29 <Neha> q:
14:50:33 <Neha> q?
14:51:05 <matatk> topic: Draft Review Process Doc for APA Members
14:51:19 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/apa/blob/main/process/spec-review-guide.md#creating-proposed-issues-for-apa-discussion
14:51:45 <matatk> Sorry; link above too specific; here is full guide: https://github.com/w3c/apa/blob/main/process/spec-review-guide.md
14:51:52 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:51:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/05/13-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:52:42 <Neha> janina: explaining the schema
14:53:06 <Neha> janina: document of horizontal review process of APA
14:54:54 <Neha> janina: word document and specification are synonyms - can it document throughout?
14:55:04 <Neha> janina: will file an issue
14:55:17 <Neha> zakim, end meeting
14:55:17 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been thelounge, PaulG, Fazio, matatk, janina, Neha, Cruspy, JonCohn, chiace
14:55:19 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:55:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/05/13-apa-minutes.html Zakim
14:55:26 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Neha; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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15:01:49 <janina> rrsagent, bye
15:01:49 <RRSAgent> I see no action items