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13:49:55 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
13:50:16 <janina> Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
13:50:23 <janina> Date: 29 Apr 2026
13:50:30 <janina> Chair: Janina
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13:53:48 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:53:48 <janina> agenda+ [TPAC 2026](https://www.w3.org/events/tpac/2026/tpac-2026/)
13:53:48 <janina> agenda+ New charters review
13:53:48 <janina> agenda+ New on TR
13:53:48 <janina> agenda+ [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues)
13:53:50 <janina> agenda+ [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues)
13:53:53 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul)
13:53:55 <janina> agenda+ Other business
13:53:58 <janina> agenda+ Be done
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14:03:48 <PaulG> scribe+
14:03:59 <PaulG> zakim, next item
14:03:59 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
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14:06:04 <PaulG> Fredrik: I will need to fall back from my w3c commitments for the immediate future.
14:06:37 <PaulG> janina: you will be missed, keep us informed
14:06:49 <PaulG> zakim, next item
14:06:49 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- [TPAC 2026](https://www.w3.org/events/tpac/2026/tpac-2026/) -- taken up [from janina]
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14:07:27 <Fredrik> q+
14:07:31 <matatk> q+
14:07:35 <matatk> ack Fredrik
14:07:43 <Fredrik> rrsagent, make minutes
14:07:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/04/29-apa-minutes.html Fredrik
14:07:51 <matatk> qq+ Fredrik
14:08:09 <PaulG> janina: TPAC: it's coming ~6 months to go. What do we want to accomplish? We typically get a lot done. October 26, Dublin
14:08:42 <matatk> ack Fredrik
14:08:42 <Zakim> Fredrik, you wanted to react to Fredrik
14:09:43 <PaulG> Fredrik: Coralee posted a funding plan for invited experts and it may apply to TPAC. The deadline for applications is mid May.
14:09:43 <matatk> Funding application: https://www.sovereign.tech/programs/standards
14:09:49 <matatk> Deadline is 19th of May
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14:10:37 <PaulG> matatk: this is different from previous years
14:11:43 <PaulG> ...please apply. We haven't encouraged people enough in the past.
14:12:07 <matatk> ack me
14:13:09 <chiace7> I’m currently researching this at work, so I’m happy to help :)
14:13:19 <PaulG> ...we had a call in ADAPT discussing ML and customizing for the user. We explored use cases that overlapped accessibility and COGA and RQTF. We have a positive and negative overlap.
14:13:28 <janina> Slide deck at: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-adapt/2026Apr/0016.html
14:13:54 <PaulG> ...we've agreed to keep in touch about these opportunities to coordinate.
14:14:23 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/2026/04/28-adapt-minutes.html
14:15:31 <PaulG> ...TPAC will be a venue for continuing the work.
14:16:45 <matatk> subtopic: Well-known Accessibility Reporting
14:17:02 <matatk> PaulG: Still looking for a home for this. TPAC? Any suggestions?
14:17:15 <matatk> janina: I hope we can move on this before TPAC
14:17:29 <matatk> ... would like to see it in WCAG 3; that will be hard by the end of the year; doable by this point.
14:17:32 <matatk> scribe+
14:18:21 <matatk> janina: We need to have conversation in Adapt. We definitely want to be working on it ASAP and talking about it at TPAC
14:19:38 <PaulG> matatk: we haven't forgotten about this, I will at least informally ask around about the well-known pattern.
14:20:07 <PaulG> ...I suspect the advice will be the same but I'll get to it soon. In the meantime we can think about next steps.
14:20:54 <PaulG> ...we have to convince folks to include the rel value on their site then update the microformats wiki with useage information
14:21:59 <PaulG> ...I will also double-check the minutes of our previous meeting and file issues. If you're ok with ADAPT including it, we can help move it forward.
14:22:25 <PaulG> ...TAG and WHATWG would be separate threads.
14:22:45 <mpaiva> q+
14:22:53 <matatk> ack mpaiva
14:22:58 <mpaiva> https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/issues/84
14:23:39 <matatk> subtopic: WCAG Content API
14:23:44 <PaulG> mpaiva: this was about creating a public API for the wcag content. I've use this for plugins and presentations. Not sure if this would be a good thing to present at TPAC.
14:23:49 <PaulG> janina: I think so.
14:23:49 <matatk> See proposal from Marcelo https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/issues/84
14:23:52 <matatk> q+
14:24:10 <PaulG> ...a breakout would work well.
14:24:21 <matatk> I wonder if something like that already exists, as it could've been useful to implement https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG22/quickref/ ?
14:25:09 <PaulG> mpaiva: let me know if you want to team up on this.
14:25:22 <janina> ack ma
14:25:39 <PaulG> matatk: I think it's a great idea. But something like this may already exist.
14:26:25 <Dr_Keith> crwv why risinh today?
14:26:42 <Dr_Keith> ignore that mis type, please
14:26:52 <PaulG> matatk: you can run a breakout session even if you're not at TPAC physically
14:27:00 <matatk> ack me
14:27:08 <janina> q?
14:27:15 <matatk> s/crwv why risinh today?//
14:27:22 <matatk> s/ignore that mis type, please//
14:27:34 <PaulG> zakim, next item
14:27:34 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- New charters review -- taken up [from janina]
14:28:00 <PaulG> zakim, close this item
14:28:00 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
14:28:01 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:28:01 <Zakim> 4. New on TR [from janina]
14:28:07 <PaulG> zakim, next item
14:28:07 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- New on TR -- taken up [from janina]
14:28:34 <Roy_Ruoxi> subtopic: Four First Public Working Drafts for the Linked Web Storage (LWS) 1.0 Authentication Suite
14:28:34 <Roy_Ruoxi> - LWS 1.0 Authentication Suite: OpenID Connect -> https://www.w3.org/TR/2026/WD-lws10-authn-openid-20260423/
14:28:34 <Roy_Ruoxi> - LWS 1.0 Authentication Suite: SAML 2.0 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/2026/WD-lws10-authn-saml-20260423/
14:28:34 <Roy_Ruoxi> - LWS 1.0 Authentication Suite: Self-signed Identity using Controlled Identifiers ->
14:28:36 <Roy_Ruoxi> https://www.w3.org/TR/2026/WD-lws10-authn-ssi-cid-20260423/
14:28:36 <Roy_Ruoxi> - LWS 1.0 Authentication Suite: Self-signed Identity using did:key -> https://www.w3.org/TR/2026/WD-lws10-authn-ssi-did-key-20260423/
14:29:50 <PaulG> matatk: this is about having control over your own data
14:30:34 <PaulG> ...I think it will be too low level for us but Janina, Roy, and I should make sure they're familiar with the accessibility requirements for authentication.
14:31:23 <Roy_Ruoxi> subtopic: First Public Working Draft: CBOR-LD 1.0
14:31:23 <Roy_Ruoxi> - CBOR-LD 1.0 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/2026/WD-cbor-ld-10-20260428/
14:32:24 <PaulG> matatk: it's a binary encoding for json-ld so I think it will be too low-level and Manu is involved so we can ask the group to include accessibility information
14:32:36 <Roy_Ruoxi> subtopic: First Public Working Draft: Long Animation Frames API
14:32:36 <Roy_Ruoxi> - Long Animation Frames API -> https://www.w3.org/TR/2026/WD-long-animation-frames-20260428/
14:34:02 <matatk> matatk: I think this is more about long-running tasks.
14:34:36 <janina> q?
14:35:05 <matatk> PaulG: PaulG: I think this is tangential right now to CSS. It talks about long script monitoring. It's focused on threads, particularly ones that don't get a chance to GC. Just looking at the spec. Some examples around performance observer. I think it's about fine-tuning performance stuff. It doesn't call out CSS directly; there are some notes
14:35:05 <matatk> about terms used, which come from CSS. I'd have to read through it.
14:35:19 <matatk> s/PaulG: PaulG: I/PaulG: I/
14:36:11 <PaulG> zakim, next item
14:36:11 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues) -- taken up [from janina]
14:37:05 <PaulG> matatk: the first thing I want to discuss is tracking
14:37:16 <matatk> subtopic: HTML in Canvans - tracking the tracking
14:38:09 <PaulG> ...I want to make sure we're looking at the right thing
14:38:28 <matatk> HTML in Canvas PR (the main one?): https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/11588
14:39:03 <matatk> HTML in Canvas issue (one of many?): https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/10650
14:39:32 <Fredrik> rrsagent. make minutes
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14:41:08 <PaulG> https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/pull/6250
14:41:23 <matatk> TAG Design Review: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1204
14:41:50 <PaulG> https://github.com/WICG/html-in-canvas
14:41:51 <matatk> https://github.com/WICG/html-in-canvas
14:43:37 <matatk> matatk: makes note to look in ARIA and CSS repos
14:44:39 <matatk> PaulG: There's an interesting discussion on Mozilla's standards-positions repo too
14:44:47 <matatk> PaulG: And from ARIA in their meetings
14:44:53 <PaulG> https://www.w3.org/2026/04/02-aria-minutes.html#b300
14:45:49 <PaulG> matatk: this is a good rallying cry to pull all of the a11y groups together.
14:46:51 <PaulG> ...identify the key issues. Janina, Roy, and I need to triage the issues. We can highlight concerns.
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14:49:30 <matatk> PaulG: This is going to be big. They need to address accessibility sooner rather than later. Frameworks will spring up to support people making canvas-based sites.
14:49:46 <matatk> PaulG: With GPU shaders and AI writing things, this is going to be so important that we get this right.
14:50:02 <matatk> PaulG: If we don't there will be a flood of inaccessible, beautiful-looking slop.
14:50:20 <chiace> From after 15 May, things should be calmer for me at work, so I’d be happy to help. You would just need to let me know what to do, and maybe share an example, so I can make sure I do everything correctly :)
14:51:25 <PaulG> matatk: APA's strength is talking about the use cases. It's important for us to keep track of issues.
14:51:56 <matatk> subtopic: RDF 1.2 Syntaxes
14:51:56 <matatk> tracking: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/309
14:52:09 <matatk> Fredrik's suggestion: The RDF/XML format is used to express arbitrary application data, which, in accordance with foundational W3C principles, should adhere to the organisation’s accessibility guidelines including Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) as well as other related, pertinent documents. Authors publishing such information are
14:52:09 <matatk> also advised to carefully consider the needs and use of publishing such information, as well as the applicable regulations for the regions where the data is expected to be consumed and potentially revealed (e.g., EAA, CAA).
14:53:42 <PaulG> matatk: I don't think it's multi-modal, primarily for machines to read, all text. Do you think there's a subset of WCAG that would apply?
14:54:32 <PaulG> Fredrik: I'll think about it. 1.3.1 and 1.3.2 are the likely candidates. It's a meta format.
14:54:58 <PaulG> ...2.4.6 and 4.1.2 for good measure
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14:56:30 <PaulG> matatk: we can tell them what we'd like to see, get a draft issue and have folks review it async. I'm happy to go through that process for you.
14:57:18 <Fredrik> rrsagent, make minutes
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14:57:29 <PaulG> zakim, end meeting
14:57:29 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been JonCohn, janina, PaulG, Fredrik, Dr_Keith, matatk, chiace, mpaiva, tsaulter
14:57:31 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:57:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/04/29-apa-minutes.html Zakim
14:57:39 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, PaulG; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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