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10:46:15 <AndyS> zakim, start meeting
10:46:15 <AndyS> meeting: Data Shapes WG
10:46:15 <AndyS> agenda: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/plenary-2026-04-27.md
10:46:15 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
10:46:16 <agendabot> AndyS, sorry, https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/plenary-2026-04-27.md doesn't seem to exist.
10:46:16 <AndyS> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/04/20-data-shapes-minutes.html
10:46:16 <AndyS> next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/05/04-data-shapes-minutes.html
10:46:16 <AndyS> rrsagent, make logs public
10:46:17 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), AndyS
10:46:17 <AndyS> rrsagent, please draft minutes
10:46:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/04/27-data-shapes-minutes.html AndyS
10:46:25 <AndyS> agenda?
10:55:22 <AndyS> present+
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11:00:05 <AndyS> chair: Nick
11:00:30 <nicholascar> prezent+
11:00:39 <nicholascar> s/prezent+/present+/
11:00:52 <AndyS> present?
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11:02:49 <AndyS> rrsagent, please draft minutes
11:02:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/04/27-data-shapes-minutes.html AndyS
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11:03:21 <DavidHabgood> present+
11:03:50 <AndyS> regrets+ Alex
11:03:57 <AndyS> regrets+ Eliana
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11:07:20 <caribou> Topic: Document readiness
11:07:42 <nicholascar> Rules has an outline in the doc
11:07:52 <caribou> Nick: goal to have complete outline of all documents by the end of April, and complete doc by the end of May
11:08:17 <caribou> ... to be ready for Wide review in June
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11:09:39 <AndyS> scribe: caribou
11:09:49 <TallTed4> present+ TallTed
11:09:53 <caribou> - Compact syntax
11:10:04 <caribou> good shape for outline
11:10:36 <caribou> it's feasible to have complete doc by end of May
11:11:06 <caribou> - UI
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11:11:10 <AndyS> Rule work -- document has the necessary section structure. PRs for most of overview (section1); the way assignment and bnode in the head are handled (necessary feature) and for RDF syntax.
11:11:39 <caribou> content by end of May would be veyr tight
11:11:50 <caribou> core aspects ok
11:12:03 <caribou> main scope is form rendering
11:13:45 <caribou> Nick: unfinished doc may have to be pushed out of Rec track to become a Note
11:14:17 <caribou> Topic: Registry
11:15:07 <caribou> Nick: I've sent an email last week about "which things could need a registry"
11:15:16 <ajnelson-nist> q+
11:16:22 <caribou> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-shacl/2026Apr/0026.html questions
11:16:38 <nicholascar> ack ajnelson-nist
11:16:47 <caribou> Alex: what about SHACL SHACL?
11:17:18 <AndyS> q+
11:17:40 <nicholascar> ack AndyS
11:18:38 <caribou> AndyS: you can republish documents
11:19:01 <caribou> Nick: is it easier to add to register rather than republish with addition?
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11:19:40 <caribou> AndyS: the WG stays for maintenance mode
11:23:58 <nicholascar> Carine described the processes and reasons for WG extensions and rechartering
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11:29:01 <caribou> Topic: Overview document
11:29:10 <nicholascar> https://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/shacl12-overview/
11:29:11 <labra> present+
11:29:29 <caribou> Nick: please have a look at it, it's about what's new in SHACL 1.2
11:29:55 <caribou> ... q is Are people interested in adding content to this document?
11:30:03 <caribou> ... intended to become a WG note
11:30:27 <caribou> ... we used as support for wide review
11:31:18 <caribou> ... suggestions?
11:32:01 <caribou> Ognjen: interested in recursion
11:32:08 <caribou> Nick: in the specifications?
11:32:41 <caribou> Ognjen: part of the core
11:33:14 <caribou> Nick: it needs to be worked in the document where it might go first
11:34:07 <nicholascar> q?
11:34:15 <caribou> Nick: I'll keep the Overview doc updated as we progress to the other wide reviews
11:35:06 <caribou> ... the dataset exchange WG has been rechartered
11:35:19 <caribou> ... are they going to publish validators for DCAT?
11:36:01 <caribou> Alex: validator for SHACL 1.2?
11:36:10 <caribou> Nick: yes
11:36:51 <caribou> Alex: they might ask us
11:37:32 <mgberg> q+
11:37:43 <caribou> Nick: question is how central SHACL is
11:37:51 <nicholascar> ack mgberg
11:39:08 <caribou> Nick: success of @@@ was because it was published with a schema, making validation possible
11:40:03 <caribou> ... DCAT without a validator does not seem sensible
11:43:45 <caribou> Nick: (describing the GeoSPARQL experience)
11:44:12 <AndyS> Implementation report (for SHACL 1.0) incoming -- https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/pull/854
11:44:54 <caribou> Topic: AOB
11:45:57 <caribou> AndyS: have a live report of implementations
11:46:15 <caribou> Nick: pySHACL will be updated soon
11:46:27 <caribou> ... let's discuss next week
11:50:04 <caribou> Adjourned
11:50:20 <caribou> RRSAgent, make minutes please
11:50:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/04/27-data-shapes-minutes.html caribou
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