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14:01:23 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Meeting: PEWG
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14:02:10 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/bc0bed33-fd93-40a6-95bb-10f27c641863/20260422T100000/
14:02:17 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Chair: Patrick H. Lauke
14:02:22 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Scribe: Patrick H. Lauke
14:02:26 <Patrick_H_Lauke> present+
14:02:32 <Patrick_H_Lauke> present+ smaug
14:02:34 <Patrick_H_Lauke> present+ flackr
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14:07:04 <Patrick_H_Lauke> TOPIC: Impact of AI technologies on Pointer Events Working Group's mission https://github.com/w3c/webai-roadmap/issues/26
14:09:00 <mustaq> There was a BlinkOn talk on a new `wpt-gen` tool on Monday.
14:09:38 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: my kneejerk reaction was that AI wouldn't really have an impact on us
14:09:42 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: AI can be useful to generate tests...
14:10:30 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: ah, good point, was thinking of AI agents as such, but yes
14:10:41 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: could also be useful for spec reviews
14:10:46 <nicolo-ribaudo> present+
14:11:01 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Nicolo: yes, i find it useful to run specs through AI to catch silly/small mistakes
14:11:26 <Patrick_H_Lauke> ACTION: Patrick to reply to thread on webai-roadmap
14:11:29 <smaug> btw, when dealing with the specs, https://github.com/jnjaeschke/webspec-index can be useful
14:11:48 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Rob: wonder if AI could help to catch under-specified bits
14:12:35 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Rob: it may help find things that work differently in different browsers
14:12:56 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: it could compare code and results, and if it finds a difference it could write test cases?
14:13:19 <Patrick_H_Lauke> TOPIC: Expose 'inertial scrolling state' in wheel events https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/587
14:13:46 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: i believe mustaq assigned this to himself
14:13:55 <Patrick_H_Lauke> mustaq: i completely forgot, will get this done
14:14:08 <Patrick_H_Lauke> ACTION: mustaq to write PR for issue #587
14:14:18 <Patrick_H_Lauke> TOPIC: Follow-up from W3C Breakout Day session https://github.com/w3c/breakouts-day-2026/issues/3
14:17:01 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: there were some good ideas at the end of that session about how to unblock us on the charter renewal - from memory, we wanted to incubate the gesture aspect a bit further, and not make our charter contingent on it, but still allow us the freedom/option to explore as part of our group without needing to spin up a whole new group
14:17:40 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: I will catch up with Philippe about this to see if a) he remembers the specific ideas we discussed (I'm sure WICG/incubation was involved) and b) if we can make it happen, so that we can unblock our charter renewal
14:18:01 <Patrick_H_Lauke> ACTION: Patrick to discuss with PLH about next steps regarding PEv4 charter and gestures
14:18:11 <smaug> Btw, gestures related issue https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/12374
14:19:10 <Patrick_H_Lauke> TOPIC: Status of PEv3
14:20:44 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: was hoping for PLH to be able to give us an update, but i will see if i can catch him to see what's going on, if anything, with PEv3 going to REC or not
14:21:01 <Patrick_H_Lauke> ACTION: Patrick to check with PLH on PEv3 REC status
14:28:57 <Patrick_H_Lauke> [general open-ended discussion on different gesture-related activities, once we get to incubation]
14:29:20 <Patrick_H_Lauke> [discussion on "has anybody tried VR goggles like meta quest and visionOS]
14:29:39 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: here's the crazy demo I tried aeons ago with leap motion and pointer events https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCqSW-chteM
14:33:25 <Patrick_H_Lauke> https://patrickhlauke.github.io/touch/
14:33:43 <Patrick_H_Lauke> https://patrickhlauke.github.io/touch/tracker/multi-touch-tracker-pointer-hud.html
14:34:26 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: thank you all, catch you again in 2 weeks' time
14:34:35 <Patrick_H_Lauke> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
14:34:40 <Patrick_H_Lauke> RRSAgent, generate minutes
14:34:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/04/22-pointerevents-minutes.html Patrick_H_Lauke
14:35:28 <Patrick_H_Lauke> RRSAgent, bye
14:35:28 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in https://www.w3.org/2026/04/22-pointerevents-actions.rdf :
14:35:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Patrick to reply to thread on webai-roadmap [1]
14:35:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2026/04/22-pointerevents-irc#T14-11-26
14:35:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: mustaq to write PR for issue #587 [2]
14:35:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2026/04/22-pointerevents-irc#T14-14-08
14:35:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Patrick to discuss with PLH about next steps regarding PEv4 charter and gestures [3]
14:35:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2026/04/22-pointerevents-irc#T14-18-01
14:35:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Patrick to check with PLH on PEv3 REC status [4]
14:35:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2026/04/22-pointerevents-irc#T14-21-01