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11:01:07 <AndyS> zakim, start meeting
11:01:07 <AndyS> rrsagent, make logs public
11:01:08 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
11:01:09 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), AndyS
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11:01:15 <AndyS> meeting: Data Shapes WG
11:01:15 <AndyS> agenda: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/plenary-2026-03-30.md
11:01:17 <agendabot> clear agenda
11:01:17 <agendabot> agenda+ Phase 1 deliverables
11:01:17 <agendabot> agenda+ Phase 2 deliverables
11:01:17 <agendabot> agenda+ Review old PRs
11:01:17 <agendabot> agenda+ Task Force reports
11:01:19 <agendabot> agenda+ General Business
11:01:22 <ajnelson-nist> present+
11:01:28 <AndyS> present+
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11:01:34 <Robert> present+
11:01:35 <AndyS> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/03/23-data-shapes-minutes.html
11:01:35 <AndyS> next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/04/13-data-shapes-minutes.html
11:01:40 <simonstey> present+
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11:02:41 <HolgerK> Sorry not feeling well today, will skip this meeting. No updates from my side w.r.t. Core, SPARQL or Node Expressions.
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11:03:06 <caribou> present+
11:03:18 <ieben> present+
11:03:21 <elianaP> present+
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11:04:14 <Robert> elianaP: plan to deliver end of month
11:05:17 <Robert> elianaP: skip meeting next week because of easter holidays
11:05:52 <AndyS> rrsagent,  draft minutes
11:05:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/03/30-data-shapes-minutes.html AndyS
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11:06:28 <Robert> task force reports:
11:06:32 <AndyS> regrets: HolgerK
11:06:54 <Robert> AndyS: raised issue on SPARQL
11:07:49 <YoucTagh> present+
11:08:10 <Robert> elianaP: Profiles completing outline this week
11:08:19 <elianaP> q?
11:09:03 <Robert> ajnelson-nist: concept of no profile for Profiling document
11:09:25 <Robert> ajnelson-nist: try out on prov vocabulary
11:10:28 <Robert> mgberg: cleaning up issues for finishing outline end of month
11:10:29 <AndyS> present+ Oggy
11:11:39 <Robert> ieben: added placeholders for parts in UI draft
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11:11:55 <Robert> ieben: language resolution discussion
11:12:47 <Robert> ... meeting time shifted by half an hour because of time changes
11:13:17 <AndyS> https://www.w3.org/TR/shacl12-rules/
11:13:38 <AndyS> new terms -- https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/issues/829
11:14:18 <Robert> AndyS: skolemisation and duplicates discussion
11:14:29 <AndyS> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/issues/840
11:14:34 <AndyS> aggregation
11:14:56 <AndyS> from this discussion https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/discussions/637#discussioncomment-14893773
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11:15:49 <Robert> ... priority on 840
11:18:04 <Robert> AndyS: Creating new terms is mandatory; we need to solve it and it will not be marked at risk
11:18:34 <TallTed> present+
11:18:45 <Robert> q+
11:18:57 <simonstey> q+
11:19:18 <YoucTagh> q+
11:19:18 <AndyS> q+
11:20:04 <Robert> ajnelson-nist: discussion on imports; cannot import a shacl shapes graph multiple times, because of blank nodes
11:20:29 <Robert> ... was this addressed previously and, if not, where should we address it?
11:20:41 <elianaP> q?
11:21:29 <Robert> AndyS: load via URL only once
11:22:06 <Robert> ... but edge cases might still load multiple times
11:22:29 <mgberg> q+
11:23:06 <AndyS> ack me
11:23:12 <Robert> ajnelson-nist: each graph has 2 names/URIs to get them because of versionIRI
11:24:27 <Robert> AndyS: no perfect answer; you just have to be careful
11:26:05 <mgberg> ack me
11:26:17 <Robert> mgberg: draft pull request -> owl imports checks versionIRI
11:26:34 <AndyS> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/issues/830
11:27:25 <Robert> compact syntax independent of rules syntax
11:28:52 <Robert> simonstey: shacl-sparql spec is failing because of Ashley not part of the group
11:29:13 <ajnelson-nist> q+
11:29:20 <simonstey> ack me
11:29:31 <Robert> q-
11:29:54 <simonstey> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/actions/workflows/auto-publish-shacl12-sparql.yml
11:29:57 <elianaP> q?
11:30:01 <YoucTagh> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/issues/828
11:30:47 <YoucTagh> https://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/shacl12-core/#example-classes-and-shapes-to-describe-our-domain-of-interest
11:32:08 <AndyS> q+
11:32:36 <YoucTagh> ack me
11:32:57 <AndyS> ack ajnelson-nist
11:33:21 <Robert> ajnelson-nist: move Ashley to past editors list?
11:33:38 <Robert> simonstey: remove his w3c ID
11:34:08 <caribou> q+
11:34:18 <AndyS> q-
11:35:14 <Robert> caribou: it is not about the ID; move to former editors
11:35:40 <AndyS> ack caribou
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11:40:03 <AndyS> zakim, end meeting
11:40:03 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been ajnelson-nist, AndyS, Robert, simonstey, caribou, ieben, elianaP, mgberg, YoucTagh, Oggy, TallTed
11:40:05 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
11:40:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/03/30-data-shapes-minutes.html Zakim
11:40:13 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, AndyS; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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11:40:16 <AndyS> rrsagent, please leave
11:40:16 <RRSAgent> I see no action items