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15:57:39 <ktk> meeting: RDF-star WG meeting
15:57:53 <ktk> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/e5234c80-4c06-4c6b-af43-c78a1dbd390a/20260326T120000/
15:57:53 <agendabot> clear agenda
15:57:53 <agendabot> agenda+ Approval of last week’s minutes: -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2026/03/19-rdf-star-minutes.html
15:57:53 <agendabot> agenda+ Review of open actions, available at -> 2 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/3
15:57:53 <agendabot> agenda+ Review of open PRs, available at -> 3 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/4
15:57:55 <agendabot> agenda+ Identifying issues to solve before CR -> 4 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/8
15:57:58 <agendabot> agenda+ Any Other Business (AOB), time permitting
15:58:20 <ktk> present+
15:59:17 <ktk> regrets+ tl, Dominik_T
15:59:17 <AndyS> present+
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16:03:58 <AndyS> agenda?
16:04:02 <ktk> Zakim, open item 1
16:04:04 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Approval of last week’s minutes: -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2026/03/19-rdf-star-minutes.html -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:04:25 <pfps> minutes look OK
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16:04:36 <ora> proposal: Approve last week's minutes
16:04:39 <niklasl> +1
16:04:39 <ora> +1
16:04:40 <ktk> +1
16:04:40 <AndyS> 0 (not there for most of the time)
16:04:42 <TallTed> +1
16:04:45 <gtw> +1
16:04:45 <william-vw> +1
16:04:45 <olaf> +1
16:04:47 <doerthe> Present+
16:04:55 <pchampin> +1
16:04:55 <doerthe> 0
16:05:07 <doerthe> present+
16:05:11 <ora> resolved: Approve last week's minutes
16:05:26 <ktk> Zakim, next item
16:05:28 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Review of open actions, available at -> 2 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/3 -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:05:45 <pchampin> q+
16:06:29 <AndyS> ora: actions ongoing
16:06:40 <ora> ack pchampin
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16:06:49 <pchampin> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-threat-model/
16:06:54 <fsasaki> present+ felix
16:07:10 <AndyS> pchampin: we resolved to create a note - > https://github.com/w3c/rdf-threat-model/
16:07:16 <AndyS> ... first pull request
16:07:31 <pchampin> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-threat-model/pull/1/changes
16:07:32 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-threat-model/pull/1 -> Pull Request 1 add tentative diagram for threat modeling (by pchampin)
16:07:48 <AndyS> ... with diagram
16:08:24 <AndyS> ... the diagram is the basis for a threat model
16:08:52 <AndyS> q+
16:08:57 <pchampin> scribe+
16:08:59 <ora> ack AndyS
16:10:09 <pchampin> AndyS: it might be worthwile to include "triple store" or "SPARQL store", to differentiate from any other store
16:10:19 <AndyS> AndyS: maybe say "triplestore" or "SPARQL store" to give the scope
16:10:25 <pchampin> scribe-
16:10:31 <AndyS> ora: good start
16:10:43 <ktk> Zakim, next item
16:10:43 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Review of open PRs, available at -> 3 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/4 -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:11:17 <AndyS> q+
16:11:41 <ora> ack AndyS
16:11:46 <pchampin> scribe+
16:11:55 <pfps> q+ for semantics
16:12:14 <pchampin> AndyS: I added an editorial PR on RDF-Concepts to remove borders on array cells
16:12:23 <pchampin> q+ for concepts
16:12:29 <AndyS> AndyS: table appearance PR on RDF Concepts
16:12:38 <ora> ack pfps
16:12:38 <Zakim> pfps, you wanted to discuss semantics
16:12:56 <niklasl> q+ for common files by reference
16:13:09 <AndyS> pfps: bunch of "include common files by reference"  PRs.
16:13:25 <AndyS> ... are they ready to go?
16:13:45 <AndyS> niklasl: yes - Concepts already uses this pattern
16:14:15 <ora> q?
16:14:46 <pchampin> +1 to merge them
16:14:46 <ora> ack niklasl
16:14:46 <Zakim> niklasl, you wanted to discuss common files by reference
16:14:47 <AndyS> ... snapshot does not has the dynamic setup so reSped works.
16:15:15 <ora> ack pchampin
16:15:15 <Zakim> pchampin, you wanted to discuss concepts
16:15:34 <AndyS> pchampin: concepts PR re: text direction
16:15:55 <AndyS> ... now ready to go (minor tweaks from i18n).
16:16:18 <AndyS> ... last horizontal review comment on concepts
16:17:10 <pchampin> q+
16:17:30 <AndyS> niklasl: wait one week for all approvals
16:18:20 <AndyS> ora: rdf-new #19 -- is it still needed?
16:18:21 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/19 -> CLOSED Action 19 work with antoine and others to come up with a proposal for weak and strong compliance (on Antoine-Zimmermann, rdfguy) due 16 Feb 2023
16:18:31 <ora> ack pchampin
16:19:13 <AndyS> pchampin: suggest we merge semantics and n-triples  so we can vote on move to CR today
16:19:19 <niklasl> +1 to pchampin
16:19:27 <AndyS> ... and it's a test of the process
16:20:10 <AndyS> pfps: will do for semantics
16:20:19 <AndyS> ... done.
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16:23:04 <AndyS> pchampin: reviews - security is green as we are working on threat model.
16:23:17 <AndyS> ... TAG review ... believed done
16:23:22 <AndyS> ... i18n ... done
16:23:46 <AndyS> ... a transition request resolution can be done
16:23:47 <ora> proposal: Advance Concepts, Semantics, and N-Triples to CR
16:24:33 <ora> PROPOSAL: advance rdf12-concepts, rdf12-semantics, and rdf12-n-triples to Candidate Recommendation
16:24:35 <pfps> +1
16:24:36 <pchampin> +1
16:24:36 <niklasl> +1
16:24:37 <ora> +1
16:24:38 <ktk> +1
16:24:38 <gtw> +1
16:24:38 <olaf> +1
16:24:40 <william-vw> +1
16:24:41 <AndyS> +1
16:24:43 <doerthe> +1
16:25:16 <TallTed> +1
16:25:37 <ora> RESOLVED: advance rdf12-concepts, rdf12-semantics, and rdf12-n-triples to Candidate Recommendation
16:25:51 <fsasaki> +1
16:28:37 <AndyS> andys: a couple of editorial PRs on rdf-xml ready to go
16:29:40 <niklasl> q+
16:29:49 <ora> ack niklasl
16:30:00 <AndyS> ora: dark mode status?
16:30:38 <AndyS> niklasl: no response to issue realise last year - can apply our local solution
16:32:45 <ktk> Zakim, next item
16:32:45 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Identifying issues to solve before CR -> 4 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/8 -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:33:12 <ktk> q+
16:33:52 <ora> ack ktk
16:34:11 <pchampin> q+
16:34:19 <AndyS> ktk: created review for Turtle, NQ and TriG. Should go smoothly.
16:35:06 <AndyS> pfps: entailment regime - work-in-progress - wording fix
16:35:50 <AndyS> ... SPARQL query needs a fix around graph equivalence - it need renaming bnodes apart
16:36:07 <AndyS> ... we think better wording is needed
16:37:08 <AndyS> https://github.com/w3c/sparql-query/issues/366
16:37:08 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/sparql-query/issues/366 -> Issue 366 definition of graph-equivalent (by pfps)
16:38:20 <AndyS> pfps: needs to say "rename bnodes apart"
16:38:30 <pchampin> scribe+
16:38:39 <pchampin> AndyS: is it in the entailment extension?
16:38:59 <pchampin> pfps: no, in sparql-query, section 19
16:39:17 <pchampin> AndyS: could you make a PR? and look at section 18 as well?
16:39:29 <pchampin> pfps: assuming we are talking about simple entailment, I can do that
16:39:37 <AndyS> https://www.w3.org/TR/sparql12-query/#sparqlBGPExtend
16:40:35 <pchampin> AndyS: 18.6.3 is the extension point for entailment regimes
16:41:24 <pchampin> pfps: it refers back to D-entailment; I guess that's ok
16:41:24 <ora> ack pchampin
16:42:40 <pchampin> AndyS: not for today, but we need to discuss the extensions on RDF-XML
16:42:46 <ktk> Zakim, next item
16:42:46 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Any Other Business (AOB), time permitting -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:43:01 <pchampin> ... we have 3 new features, and 3 different way to extend RDF/XML 1.1. Not the right way to do it.
16:43:22 <AndyS> ora: I am now an Invited Expert
16:46:42 <AndyS> olaf: Cost action: GOBLIN for networking ... there will be a hackathon on metadata for knowledge graphs.
16:47:35 <pchampin> https://goblin-cost.eu/workshops-conferences/hackathon-on-metadata-and-provenance-for-knowledge-graphs/
16:48:11 <AndyS> pfps: I will giving a wikidata ontology course
16:48:17 <pfps> The course page is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Ontology/Ontology_Course
16:50:20 <pchampin> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:50:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/03/26-rdf-star-minutes.html pchampin
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