15:57:22 RRSAgent has joined #rdf-star 15:57:26 logging to https://www.w3.org/2026/03/19-rdf-star-irc 15:57:27 meeting: RDF-star WG meeting 15:57:49 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/11e4d020-9c58-4fff-83c5-37c9e2502295/20260319T120000/ 15:57:49 clear agenda 15:57:49 agenda+ Approval of last week’s minutes: -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2026/03/05-rdf-star-minutes.html 15:57:49 agenda+ Updates from the SPARQL TF 15:57:49 agenda+ Review of open actions, available at -> 2 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/3 15:57:50 agenda+ Review of open PRs, available at -> 3 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/4 15:57:53 agenda+ Identifying issues to solve before CR -> 4 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/8 15:57:56 agenda+ Any Other Business (AOB), time permitting 15:58:49 RRSAgent, draft minutes 15:58:50 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/03/19-rdf-star-minutes.html ktk 15:58:59 RRSAgent, make log public 15:59:15 present+ 15:59:34 pfps has joined #rdf-star 16:00:36 present+ 16:01:00 william-vw has joined #rdf-star 16:01:18 present+ 16:01:28 present+ 16:01:33 previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/03/12-rdf-star-minutes.html 16:01:33 next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/03/26-rdf-star-minutes.html 16:01:38 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/03/19-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed 16:02:27 niklasl has joined #rdf-star 16:02:39 Dominik_T has joined #rdf-star 16:02:44 present+ 16:02:59 Regrets+ tl 16:03:36 present+ 16:03:40 present+ 16:03:43 scribe: ktk 16:03:56 ora has joined #rdf-star 16:04:00 chair: ora 16:04:04 present+ 16:04:12 Zakim, open item 1 16:04:12 agendum 1 -- Approval of last week’s minutes: -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2026/03/05-rdf-star-minutes.html -- taken up [from agendabot] 16:04:27 present+ 16:04:53 proposal: Approve last week's minutes 16:04:56 +1 16:04:57 +1 16:04:59 +1 16:04:59 +1 16:05:01 +1 16:05:02 0 (not present) 16:05:15 0 16:05:18 +1 16:05:32 +1 16:05:32 previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/03/05-rdf-star-minutes.html 16:05:35 resolved: Approve last week's minutes 16:05:41 Zakim, next item 16:05:41 agendum 2 -- Updates from the SPARQL TF -- taken up [from agendabot] 16:06:21 Zakim, close item 2 16:06:21 agendum 2, Updates from the SPARQL TF, closed 16:06:22 I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 16:06:22 3. Review of open actions, available at -> 2 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/3 [from agendabot] 16:06:25 Zakim, next item 16:06:25 agendum 3 -- Review of open actions, available at -> 2 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/3 -- taken up [from agendabot] 16:09:59 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/03/19-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed 16:10:14 Zakim, next item 16:10:14 agendum 4 -- Review of open PRs, available at -> 3 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/4 -- taken up [from agendabot] 16:11:55 pchampin: there is a remaining one in rdf-concepts, I followed up to get feedback from i18n group. 16:12:10 ... If we don't get feedback we will force-merge it but I prefer to get some feedback first. 16:12:43 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/pull/265 16:12:44 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/pull/265 -> Pull Request 265 improve discussion on text direction - fix #262 (by pchampin) 16:15:00 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-schema/pull/66 16:15:01 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-schema/pull/66 -> Pull Request 66 Declare XSD 1.1 facets as rdf:Property and annotate them (by domel) [needs discussion] 16:15:10 pfps: It's editorial, I propose to merge. 16:15:15 ora: Do it 16:15:20 pfps: I will push the button 16:16:32 gtw: I'm gonna merge https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/306 16:16:33 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/306 -> Pull Request 306 Fix SPARQL Protocol manifest tests. (by kasei) 16:16:40 q+ improve semantics test suite 16:16:45 q+ to improve semantics test suite 16:16:48 ... this will fix a broken test introduced in another WG. 16:17:07 ack pfps 16:17:07 pfps, you wanted to improve semantics test suite 16:18:25 pfps: https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/290 we corrected some things, it has conflicts but other than that should be merged. 16:18:26 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/290 -> Pull Request 290 Improve semantics test suite (by pchampin) [Semantics] 16:18:34 pchampin: I will fix the conflicts 16:18:57 Souri has joined #rdf-star 16:19:01 present+ 16:19:01 ora: What about https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/292 16:19:02 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/292 -> Pull Request 292 Fix and move az-tests (by pchampin) [Semantics] 16:19:24 pfps: I think it's a suggestion by TallTed, missing his approval. 16:19:26 ... Should be able to go in too. 16:19:57 TallTed: I approved it now 16:20:15 pfps: I will take care of https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/297 16:20:15 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/297 -> Pull Request 297 add missing recognizedDatatypes (by pchampin) [Semantics] 16:20:19 ... and comment. 16:21:13 ora: is https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/289 the reason why we see some red in other PRs? 16:21:13 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/289 -> Pull Request 289 Bump rack from 3.1.18 to 3.1.20 in the bundler group across 1 directory (by dependabot) [dependencies] [ruby] 16:21:49 pchampin: This is most likely a security fix. I did not notice this one, will check it out. 16:22:43 ora: https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/79 has conflicts. 16:22:43 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/79 -> Pull Request 79 Fix protocol manifest (by gkellogg) 16:22:56 pchampin: This is a very old one. Gregg rebased it last summer. 16:23:49 ... gtw any ideas on that? 16:23:55 gtw: I generally agree. 16:24:42 ... I'm interested to pursue this again but I'm not sure we could continue with this. I think it would have to be reworked. 16:24:57 TallTed: We should keep it open until we have a replacement for it. 16:25:12 ora: https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/191 needs a review 16:25:13 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/191 -> Pull Request 191 Fix a wrong expected SPARQL protocol test result (by joka921) 16:25:22 gtw: I will take a look at that. 16:26:52 ora: what about https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/255 16:26:53 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/255 -> Pull Request 255 Build GitHub pages explicitly with HTML files (by Tpt) 16:27:30 pchampin: could probabl be merged but I would prefer one of the test-chairs to do that. 16:28:39 s/test-chairs/test-editors/ 16:28:58 s/probabl be/probably be/ 16:31:23 ora: https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/260 has conflicts 16:31:24 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/260 -> Pull Request 260 Beginning of manifest validations using SHACL (by Tpt) 16:31:32 ... we can come back to those who have conflicts. 16:32:25 ora: https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/298 looks like it could be merged 16:32:26 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/298 -> Pull Request 298 Dockerfile and bash script to generate HTML files locally (by pchampin) 16:32:46 pchampin: I got an approval from Ruben, not sure what the other think. Could be related to 255 that we mentioned earlier. 16:33:09 s/related/complementary/ 16:33:37 ora: that could be merged then 16:34:12 pchampin: I'll request approval from andy/tpt 16:35:11 pchampin: https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/299 dependabot made suggestions. This is applying dependabot suggestions without the problems. Will merge 16:35:12 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/299 -> MERGED Pull Request 299 fix security issues reported by dependabot (by pchampin) 16:36:42 ora: https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/310 needs pchampin's attention 16:36:42 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/pull/310 -> Pull Request 310 Fix broken manifest reference (by erdemonal) 16:36:46 pchampin: will check it out 16:37:19 ktk: this issue here https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/issues/248 16:37:20 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-tests/issues/248 -> Issue 248 GSP Test `DELETE - existing graph` has wrong expected result (by Qup42) 16:38:43 ... was mentioned in a QLever issue. Would be interesting to know if this is a problem for others as well or not. 16:40:23 q? 16:40:30 Zakim, next item 16:40:30 agendum 5 -- Identifying issues to solve before CR -> 4 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/8 -- taken up [from agendabot] 16:40:48 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/issues/248#issuecomment-4091198063 16:40:49 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/issues/248 -> Issue 248 Resolve "Editor's notes" (by afs) [ms:CR] 16:41:22 ktk: This is the proposal for the final list, plus a coment about Gregg. 16:41:27 ora: I really like the comment about Gregg. 16:41:30 +1 16:42:46 +1 for Gregg's acknowledgement 16:44:19 Is my name there? 16:44:45 yes, souri, your name is in the list 16:45:19 TallTed good catch lol 16:46:33 proposal: Approve the list of contributors as in https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/issues/248 16:46:46 (Modulo ordering changes as discussed) 16:47:01 s|https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/issues/248|https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/issues/248#issuecomment-4091198063 16:47:11 +1 16:47:12 +1 16:47:13 +1 16:47:14 +1 16:47:15 +1 16:47:15 +1 16:47:15 +1received April 21, 2025 16:47:17 +1 16:47:21 +1 16:47:22 +1 16:47:51 resolved: Approve the list of contributors as in https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/issues/248#issuecomment-4091198063 16:47:52 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/issues/248 -> Issue 248 Resolve "Editor's notes" (by afs) [ms:CR] 16:47:55 q+ 16:47:59 s/+1received April 21, 2025// 16:48:02 ack pchampin 16:48:25 pchampin: as we are under CR transition. Where are we under horizontal review 16:48:34 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/03/19-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed 16:48:48 ktk: Text is done, I will submit them Friday 16:49:07 pchampin: Second one is a heads-up on the HR that we have. i18n I mentioned on concept, the only pending ones ar security on all. 16:49:44 ... I had a discussion with the security lead at W3C. He is ok with tansitioning the three documents to CR, without threat model for the specs. 16:50:05 ... The deal is that we will have a Threat Model document/note for the WG, for RDF & SPARQL. 16:50:19 ... Before transitioning to REC, we would reference that document in the security section. 16:50:32 ... The document does not have to be finalized, it will be a living document, non-normative. 16:51:03 ... I can create the repo for that. 16:51:28 ... The Security Community Group also opens some of the agenda slots to other groups. I would like a group decision to create this repository for this note. 16:51:52 ... Those interested in contributing to that, we should try to find a convenient slot in the security CG. 16:52:14 proposal: Create repo for an RDF threat model note 16:52:16 +1 16:52:21 +1 16:52:21 +1 16:52:22 +1 16:52:22 +1 16:52:24 +1 16:52:26 +1 16:52:27 +1 16:52:36 +1 16:52:41 resolvedl: Create repo for an RDF threat model note 16:52:55 s/resolvedl/resolved 16:53:04 RRSAgent, make minutes 16:53:06 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/03/19-rdf-star-minutes.html pchampin 16:53:12 Zakim, next item 16:53:12 agendum 6 -- Any Other Business (AOB), time permitting -- taken up [from agendabot] 16:54:32 q+ 16:54:37 AndyS has joined #rdf-star 16:54:41 ack pchampin 16:56:18 q+ 16:58:06 ack AndyS 16:58:08 RRSAgent, make minutes 16:58:09 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/03/19-rdf-star-minutes.html Dominik_T 16:58:43 RRSAgent, make minutes 16:58:45 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/03/19-rdf-star-minutes.html pchampin 17:05:11 regrets+ enrico 17:10:30 pfps has left #rdf-star 17:13:34 s/coment/comment/ 17:13:35 s/other think/others think/ 17:13:35 s/ar security/are security/ 17:13:35 s/tansitioning/transitioning/ 17:13:35 s/yes, souri/yes, Souri/ 17:13:40 RRSAgent, draft minutes 17:13:41 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/03/19-rdf-star-minutes.html ktk 17:14:22 RRSAgent, leave 17:14:22 I see no action items