IRC log of ixml on 2026-03-03

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Meeting: Invisible XML Community Group
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Date: 3 March 2026
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Chair: Steven
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Scribe: Norm
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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2026Mar/0002
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Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/02/17-ixml-minutes
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Regrets: Nico
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But you can scribe if you want to :-P
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ACTION: Norm construct a page of links to the minutes
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Present: +David
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Present: Norm, Steven, Bethan, John, David
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Present: Norm, Steven, Bethan, John, David, Alan
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Steven: Fabulous symposium. Lots of good remarks from people.
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Topic: Accept the minutes of the previous meeting
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Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/02/17-ixml-minutes.html
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Accepted.
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Topic: Review of open actions
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2024-03-05-c: SP to prepare pull request to resolve issue #139 (new grammars, new README)
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Continues
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2026-02-03-a: JWL to study SP’s subtraction operator proposal
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Completed
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Topic: Status reports
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Norm: I released NineML with support for both flavors of modularity and bounded matching.
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Topic: First Int’l Symposium on Invisible XML
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Steven: I have a list. 1. We should remember next time to put breaks in the schedule.
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... More time for opening remarks; we allocated five minutes, but it took at least five minutes to get joined.
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... We had forty-something attendees over two days.
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... We have to decide whether we want to make times approximate and tell people that, or stick strictly to the schedule.
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Bethan: People tended not to run long because they had to say up front how long they wanted.
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Norm: I think resyncing the schedule at the breaks makes sense.
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Steven: We should make it clearer to speakers that the time they request includes Q&A time.
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Bethan: It's also worth allowing speakers to say if they *want* Q&A.
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Steven: Remind people that there's a different link for the second day.
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... One external comment: we should have included the abstracts on the web.
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David: Why are there different links on the two days?
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Steven: I'm not sure, Zoom generates them. I just add a meeting to the agenda.
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Norm: If we're going to publish the abstracts, we have to tell people that up front.
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Bethan: A recurring meeting would have the same link.
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Steven: We should try to do that next year.
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... The other external proposal was that we begin with a slot that describes the status of the CG.
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John: Everyone seemed very happy with two afternoons.
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Bethan: Yep.
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Some discussion of what we'd do for scheduling if we had participants from Asia/Pacific.
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Steven: We could also allow someone to submit a video if they would be at odd hours.
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Bethan: I think it makes sense to allow users to record a video in their native language and subtitle it.
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... That's something we should be encouraging anyway.
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Steven: I have split the talks into individual sections.
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... I want to cut out the problematic moments were something goes wrong. Just generally clean it up.
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... There are three things: 1. we need to agree on a startup screen. Do we want a tiny bit of music.
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Bethan: If we put them on YouTube, they'll get copyright strikes, so it isn't worth it.
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ACTION: Bethan to try making the title screen
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Bethan: I'll do the editing and the subtitling.
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Steven: Okay, I'll put them somewhere.
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Some discussion of how we might do subtitles.
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Bethan: I'll aim to try to provide subtitles with an eye towards accessibility.
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ACTION: Steven make videos available
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ACTION: Norm to ask around again about where to host the videos.
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Steven: I've forward the slides to the submission address.
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ACTION: Norm will attempt to collate the slides
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Norm, Bethan, and David give regrets for 17 and 31 March.
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David: I pointed out some inconsistencies in the titles.
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... Can we fix them?
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ACTION: Norm to fix the titles. Except for technical terms like "ixMl"
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Steven: Do we want to set a deadline for having everthing published.
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Action: Topic for next meeting: how are we progressing on the symposium output? Do we want to set a deadline?
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John: We should send a message to the mailing list saying that we're working on it.
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Steven: We should be able to get the slides up fast; it's the video editing that will take time.
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Steven: Congratulations to us all. It was great and worth doing and we should plan to do it next year.
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Some discussion of the timing. General agreement that this time of year works.
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Steven: The end of the month is the paper deadline for XML Prague and Balisage.
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David: Should this group do a spec update at the conferences?
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ACTION: Norm to write to Jirka and ask if there's a "spec update" slot planned for XML Prague (QT4CG and iXML)
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Topic: Next meeting
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14 April; John gives regrets.
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s/But you can scribe if you want to :-P//
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s/everthing/everything/
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