14:50:35 RRSAgent has joined #ixml 14:50:40 logging to https://www.w3.org/2026/03/03-ixml-irc 14:50:43 Meeting: Invisible XML Community Group 14:50:43 Date: 3 March 2026 14:50:43 Chair: Steven 14:50:45 Scribe: Norm 14:50:47 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:50:48 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/03/03-ixml-minutes.html norm 14:50:56 rrsagent, set logs world-visible 14:55:02 Steven has joined #ixml 14:55:56 rrsagent, here 14:55:56 See https://www.w3.org/2026/03/03-ixml-irc#T14-55-56 14:56:47 john has joined #ixml 14:57:02 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2026Mar/0002 14:57:16 Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/02/17-ixml-minutes 14:57:21 rrsagent, make minutes 14:57:22 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/03/03-ixml-minutes.html Steven 14:57:36 Regrets: Nico 14:58:21 But you can scribe if you want to :-P 15:00:22 ACTION: Norm construct a page of links to the minutes 15:00:45 Present: +David 15:00:52 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:00:53 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/03/03-ixml-minutes.html norm 15:01:11 Present: Norm, Steven, Bethan, John, David 15:01:28 Present: Norm, Steven, Bethan, John, David, Alan 15:01:47 Steven: Fabulous symposium. Lots of good remarks from people. 15:01:51 Topic: Accept the minutes of the previous meeting 15:01:56 Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/02/17-ixml-minutes.html 15:02:03 Accepted. 15:02:04 Topic: Review of open actions 15:02:09 2024-03-05-c: SP to prepare pull request to resolve issue #139 (new grammars, new README) 15:02:10 Continues 15:02:14 2026-02-03-a: JWL to study SP’s subtraction operator proposal 15:02:15 Completed 15:02:19 Topic: Status reports 15:03:01 Norm: I released NineML with support for both flavors of modularity and bounded matching. 15:03:06 Topic: First Int’l Symposium on Invisible XML 15:03:29 Steven: I have a list. 1. We should remember next time to put breaks in the schedule. 15:03:54 ... More time for opening remarks; we allocated five minutes, but it took at least five minutes to get joined. 15:04:11 ... We had forty-something attendees over two days. 15:04:53 ... We have to decide whether we want to make times approximate and tell people that, or stick strictly to the schedule. 15:05:15 Bethan: People tended not to run long because they had to say up front how long they wanted. 15:06:01 Norm: I think resyncing the schedule at the breaks makes sense. 15:06:15 Steven: We should make it clearer to speakers that the time they request includes Q&A time. 15:06:52 Bethan: It's also worth allowing speakers to say if they *want* Q&A. 15:07:06 Steven: Remind people that there's a different link for the second day. 15:07:40 ... One external comment: we should have included the abstracts on the web. 15:07:48 David: Why are there different links on the two days? 15:07:58 Steven: I'm not sure, Zoom generates them. I just add a meeting to the agenda. 15:08:21 Norm: If we're going to publish the abstracts, we have to tell people that up front. 15:08:27 Bethan: A recurring meeting would have the same link. 15:08:34 Steven: We should try to do that next year. 15:08:58 ... The other external proposal was that we begin with a slot that describes the status of the CG. 15:09:11 John: Everyone seemed very happy with two afternoons. 15:09:15 Bethan: Yep. 15:09:20 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:09:22 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/03/03-ixml-minutes.html norm 15:11:23 Some discussion of what we'd do for scheduling if we had participants from Asia/Pacific. 15:11:41 Steven: We could also allow someone to submit a video if they would be at odd hours. 15:12:00 Bethan: I think it makes sense to allow users to record a video in their native language and subtitle it. 15:12:09 ... That's something we should be encouraging anyway. 15:12:33 Steven: I have split the talks into individual sections. 15:12:56 ... I want to cut out the problematic moments were something goes wrong. Just generally clean it up. 15:13:35 ... There are three things: 1. we need to agree on a startup screen. Do we want a tiny bit of music. 15:14:00 Bethan: If we put them on YouTube, they'll get copyright strikes, so it isn't worth it. 15:14:25 ACTION: Bethan to try making the title screen 15:14:36 Bethan: I'll do the editing and the subtitling. 15:14:43 Steven: Okay, I'll put them somewhere. 15:15:04 Some discussion of how we might do subtitles. 15:15:52 Bethan: I'll aim to try to provide subtitles with an eye towards accessibility. 15:15:52 ACTION: Steven make videos available 15:16:55 ACTION: Norm to ask around again about where to host the videos. 15:17:33 Steven: I've forward the slides to the submission address. 15:17:44 ACTION: Norm will attempt to collate the slides 15:19:48 Norm, Bethan, and David give regrets for 17 and 31 March. 15:20:01 David: I pointed out some inconsistencies in the titles. 15:20:09 ... Can we fix them? 15:20:33 ACTION: Norm to fix the titles. Except for technical terms like "ixMl" 15:22:08 Steven: Do we want to set a deadline for having everthing published. 15:22:42 Action: Topic for next meeting: how are we progressing on the symposium output? Do we want to set a deadline? 15:23:25 John: We should send a message to the mailing list saying that we're working on it. 15:23:37 Steven: We should be able to get the slides up fast; it's the video editing that will take time. 15:24:35 Steven: Congratulations to us all. It was great and worth doing and we should plan to do it next year. 15:25:25 Some discussion of the timing. General agreement that this time of year works. 15:26:42 Steven: The end of the month is the paper deadline for XML Prague and Balisage. 15:26:54 David: Should this group do a spec update at the conferences? 15:27:48 ACTION: Norm to write to Jirka and ask if there's a "spec update" slot planned for XML Prague (QT4CG and iXML) 15:28:36 Topic: Next meeting 15:29:08 14 April; John gives regrets. 15:34:30 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:34:32 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/03/03-ixml-minutes.html norm 15:34:51 s/But you can scribe if you want to :-P// 15:35:26 s/everthing/everything/ 15:35:59 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:36:00 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/03/03-ixml-minutes.html norm