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11:55:16 <TallTed> meeting: Data Shapes Working Group teleconference
11:55:18 <TallTed> agenda: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/plenary-2026-03-02.md
11:55:19 <agendabot> clear agenda
11:55:19 <agendabot> agenda+ Phase 1 deliverables
11:55:19 <agendabot> agenda+ Phase 2 deliverables
11:55:19 <agendabot> agenda+ Review old PRss
11:55:19 <agendabot> agenda+ Task Force reports
11:55:20 <TallTed> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/02/23-data-shapes-minutes.html
11:55:21 <agendabot> agenda+ General Business
11:55:22 <TallTed> next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/03/09-data-shapes-minutes.html
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12:02:52 <simonstey> topic: phase 1 deliverables
12:03:15 <simonstey> nicholascar: any infos?
12:03:39 <simonstey> AndyS: were there any comments wrt. the wide review?
12:03:54 <simonstey> nicholascar: yeah I have to review the reviews.
12:04:23 <simonstey> AndyS: I can have a look if you link me the issue with the links to the requests
12:04:45 <nicholascar> Issues #634& #635
12:04:46 <simonstey> nicholascar: we've got a few, issues 634 and 635
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12:05:19 <AndyS> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/issues/634
12:05:21 <AndyS> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/issues/635
12:05:28 <simonstey> AndyS: on the rdf documents there has been quite a lot of silence, other than some internationalization
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12:06:06 <simonstey> nicholascar: I contacted the compact syntax guys; we need to see a scope within the next 2 weeks
12:06:16 <simonstey> ... and a complete outline within a month
12:06:29 <simonstey> ... and a completed first draft by June
12:06:47 <simonstey> ... if they want to continue on the REC track
12:06:49 <simonstey> q+
12:07:00 <nicholascar> ack simonstey
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12:07:44 <HolgerK> ack simonstey
12:07:47 <simonstey> simonstey: may have to delete the compact syntax tab from the examples
12:07:56 <simonstey> topic: review old PRs
12:08:20 <simonstey> nicholascar: can someone comment on the closing of old issues/PRs activity?
12:08:53 <simonstey> HolgerK: a lot of old issues that were closed were either already addressed or have been stale for >6 months
12:09:24 <simonstey> ... but I always encouraged the authors to reopen the issues if they feel they are still relevant
12:09:35 <simonstey> nicholascar: anything regarding old PRs?
12:09:46 <simonstey> ... currently at ~ 17?
12:10:15 <simonstey> ajnelson-nist: I started tackling them, not forgotten, but didn't get to it
12:10:27 <simonstey> topic: TF reports
12:10:34 <simonstey> nicholascar: core, sparql?
12:11:08 <simonstey> HolgerK: in core we merged rootclass and subclassof
12:11:42 <simonstey> ... nothing else to report (also not nodeexpr)
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12:12:16 <simonstey> nicholascar: regarding profiles, couple of PRs out there with couple of comments against them
12:12:24 <ajnelson-nist> q+
12:12:26 <simonstey> ... substantive comments from ajnelson-nist
12:12:27 <ajnelson-nist> q-
12:12:42 <simonstey> ... hope to have a lot addressed by Thursday
12:13:16 <simonstey> ... the next two things are profiling of standards and data (nothing too much to say about profiling data yet)
12:13:32 <simonstey> edmond: regarding UI -> still reviewing PRs
12:13:47 <simonstey> ... want to create a matrix table of all core constraints
12:14:10 <simonstey> ... covers so far most of the constraints but some thing like the minmax and logical constraints are not covered yet
12:14:37 <simonstey> ... finalizing also the widget scoring
12:14:59 <simonstey> nicholascar: so what's the next thing after you're done with the scoring?
12:15:23 <simonstey> edmond: we'll be covering the constraints that aren't covered by widgets directly
12:15:31 <simonstey> ... logical constraints e.g.
12:16:06 <simonstey> AndyS: rules -> merged a couple of PRs; and to redo the introduction and added the stratification algo
12:16:32 <simonstey> ... btw., you (currently) can't publish a document >= 2 on the same day (caching issue)
12:16:44 <simonstey> rdf/xml -1
12:17:27 <simonstey> AndyS: what's the WGs feeling wrt. rdf/xml?
12:18:11 <simonstey> ajnelson-nist: my understanding of the finance sector is that they had a lot of regulations were they had to encode data transits in XML
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12:20:27 <simonstey> ajnelson-nist: I recall it was required for some RDF spec?
12:20:32 <simonstey> AndyS: yeah RDF 1.0
12:20:59 <simonstey> topic: dataset exchange wg
12:21:29 <simonstey> nicholascar: the WG is reforming, and I think they are a user of SHACL
12:21:49 <AndyS> https://www.w3.org/2022/06/dx-wg-charter.html
12:21:51 <simonstey> ... in my AC review of their charter, that they have all these concerns about profiling
12:21:58 <AndyS> (old charter)
12:22:19 <simonstey> ... I remember them being predicated on RDF, all their outcomes are RDF things.
12:22:37 <simonstey> ... so how do they propose to write constraints?
12:22:48 <simonstey> ... are they prepared to recommend SHACL?
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12:23:37 <simonstey> ... previously and/or the current DCAT spec often drifts off into a bit of a handwavy territory
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12:34:39 <AndyS> zakim, end meeting
12:34:39 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been TallTed, nicholascar, AndyS, ajnelson-nist, Robert, Livio, HolgerK, caribou, elianaP, bergos, simonstey, ieben, YoucTagh, mgberg, edmond,
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12:34:42 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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