IRC log of smartagents-4 on 2026-02-25
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- meeting: Multi-Agent Conversational Methodology Breakout
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- present: Kaz_Ashimura, plh, Emmett_Coin, Matt_Shomphe, Molly_Lewis, Samantha_Estoesta
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- topic: Self Intro
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- (everybody gives their intro)
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- topic: Discussion
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- se: different cultural groups use agents
- 19:28:32 [kaz]
- ... different communications styles with agents
- 19:29:07 [kaz]
- ec: great question
- 19:29:40 [kaz]
- ... e.g., Chinese agents vs Australian agents
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- ms: trying to negotiate cultural differences
- 19:31:45 [kaz]
- ... if two agents talking with each other, e.g., one from China and another from Australia
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- ec: might be intentional
- 19:32:07 [kaz]
- ... natural to happen
- 19:32:20 [kaz]
- ... also should think about agents working with people
- 19:32:44 [kaz]
- ... maybe we should have some protocol to handle the situation
- 19:33:11 [kaz]
- se: other issue about global languages
- 19:33:44 [kaz]
- ... could have shared common language dictionary
- 19:34:17 [kaz]
- ... to handle difficulty cultures and styles
- 19:34:24 [kaz]
- ec: interesting
- 19:34:43 [kaz]
- ... e.g., English as the second language
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- ... we could have a standard like English language
- 19:35:17 [kaz]
- ... kind of like Esperant
- 19:35:23 [kaz]
- ms: think so too
- 19:35:38 [kaz]
- s/rant/ranto/
- 19:36:07 [kaz]
- ec: some way to translate to a standard
- 19:36:14 [kaz]
- ... kind of like multilingual
- 19:38:40 [kaz]
- ... for example, would be useful to have an agent for warehouse coordination
- 19:39:33 [kaz]
- ms: can we imagine shipping products, e.g., to Ontario
- 19:39:41 [kaz]
- ... you have multi-lingual environment
- 19:40:07 [kaz]
- ... like the idea somebody talking based on the context
- 19:40:22 [kaz]
- ... there are many ways to think about that
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- ... some sort of reduced English
- 19:40:50 [kaz]
- ... translated from other languages
- 19:41:08 [kaz]
- ... e.g., from Turkish
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- ec: like Star Trek :)
- 19:41:30 [kaz]
- ms: right
- 19:41:53 [kaz]
- ... universal translator
- 19:42:16 [kaz]
- ... multi-agent and multi-languages
- 19:42:36 [kaz]
- ec: maybe agents should handle language modules on top of the structure
- 19:42:46 [kaz]
- ... very structured language agents could use
- 19:43:04 [kaz]
- ... mostly "language" is important for humans
- 19:45:29 [kaz]
- kaz: should think about both NL and structured model
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- ... also we should think about dialog management model to handle multiple agents and humans
- 19:46:06 [kaz]
- ec: right
- 19:46:13 [kaz]
- ... have to have similar thing
- 19:46:26 [kaz]
- ... typical agents inside our standard field
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- ... we could add the model why the human is raising hand
- 19:47:04 [kaz]
- kaz: right
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- present+ Deborah_Dahl
- 19:47:23 [kaz]
- (Debbie jois)
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- ec: (gives summary so far)
- 19:47:58 [kaz]
- ... should think about difference based on language, culture, etc.
- 19:48:39 [kaz]
- ... for example, there are girls who need help
- 19:48:48 [kaz]
- ... it's kind of like a game
- 19:49:06 [kaz]
- ms: interesting
- 19:49:18 [kaz]
- ... customers would like to achieve some goal
- 19:49:36 [kaz]
- s/help/help, and agents can help them go home/
- 19:50:10 [kaz]
- ec: when we generate an LLM, should get landmarks, etc.
- 19:51:37 [kaz]
- se: do we have to build to understand agents?
- 19:51:49 [kaz]
- ec: very helpful rules can be built
- 19:52:28 [kaz]
- dd: plh reminded me that there is just 10 more minutes
- 19:52:43 [kaz]
- ec: ok. any more things?
- 19:53:11 [kaz]
- dd: discussion around cultural issues?
- 19:53:14 [kaz]
- ec: yeah
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- ... had discussion about cultural differences
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- ... mid-west vs south America, etc.
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- ms: impressive
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- ec: agents like actors from Shakespeare
- 19:54:29 [kaz]
- ... how we signal cultural differences?
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- se: so many disclosures
- 19:54:46 [kaz]
- ... languages we use for training
- 19:54:59 [kaz]
- ... English, e.g., American English
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- ... need a good standard for that
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- dd: some format for that purpose
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- ec: have strong attitude for that
- 19:56:14 [kaz]
- ... what the agent is like
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- ... not necessarily behaving right to people
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- ms: right
- 19:57:07 [kaz]
- ... wouldn't trust developers accurately express it
- 19:58:23 [kaz]
- ec: possibly, we could have agents which have different purposes/attitudes
- 19:58:47 [kaz]
- ms: yeah, could be malicious
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- [breakout ends]
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/25-smartagents-4-minutes.html kaz
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