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14:55:27 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Meeting: PEWG
14:55:34 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Chair: Patrick H. Lauke
14:55:37 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Scribe: Patrick H. Lauke
14:55:44 <Patrick_H_Lauke> ScribeNick: Patrick_H_Lauke
14:55:53 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/bc0bed33-fd93-40a6-95bb-10f27c641863/20260225T100000/
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15:03:06 <Patrick_H_Lauke> TOPIC: Recharter https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/515 / W3C Breakout Days 2026 https://github.com/w3c/breakouts-day-2026/issues/3
15:05:01 <smaug> https://github.com/w3c/breakouts-day-2026
15:07:14 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: please review the draft entry
15:07:35 <Patrick_H_Lauke> [Discussion on time slots - working out what UTC slots translate to for US folks]
15:13:47 <Patrick_H_Lauke> TOPIC: UI Events meeting https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iRFgqtReyomoCwZFEdRUdoW1ManD5t656CVUGJm7Xos/
15:14:19 <Patrick_H_Lauke> plh: except for WPT, all related PRs have been merged. move has been done, published
15:14:55 <Patrick_H_Lauke> plh: it did create some headaches. only one remaining is mousewheel, need to figure out what to do with it
15:14:59 <plh> https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/pull/57644
15:15:02 <Patrick_H_Lauke> plh: PR for WPT
15:15:30 <Patrick_H_Lauke> plh: up to you folks to decide when to merge
15:15:40 <Patrick_H_Lauke> plh: made fixes to respec etc along the way
15:15:59 <Patrick_H_Lauke> mustaq: i promised to look at failing tests for alt key / meta key. seems to be down to a bug
15:16:26 <Patrick_H_Lauke> plh: that's for WPTs for PE3
15:16:37 <Patrick_H_Lauke> flackr: I'd say go ahead with the WPT PR
15:16:49 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: +1
15:17:08 <Patrick_H_Lauke> plh: don't know if firefox has additional info to disable test results into their pipeline...
15:17:24 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: so some tests used to fail before, and now...
15:17:38 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: can go ahead. annotation happens on our side
15:17:51 <Patrick_H_Lauke> plh: need to still bypass checks for nightly stability
15:17:57 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: ask James for this
15:18:11 <Patrick_H_Lauke> plh: have a look at the PR (Olli) and do what's needed
15:18:47 <Patrick_H_Lauke> ACTION: Olli to review the WPT PR https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/pull/57644 with regards to firefox nightly stability error
15:19:21 <Patrick_H_Lauke> plh: went above and beyond and also did PRs for pointerlock and media ones
15:20:19 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: note that Dom filed a new issue about broken links https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/641
15:20:36 <Patrick_H_Lauke> plh: this looks like some documents/specs out there still linking to outdated links
15:21:01 <Patrick_H_Lauke> plh: could be that it's because the pointerlock change hasn't landed
15:21:09 <Patrick_H_Lauke> mustaq: i didn't merge yet...
15:21:27 <Patrick_H_Lauke> plh: you can merge, i fixed an existing error there in the workflow
15:22:00 <Patrick_H_Lauke> TOPIC: WPTs - group to review implementation report https://w3c.github.io/pointereventswg/implementation-reports/wpt-pointerevents-2026-01-25.html
15:23:07 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: i looked, and this looked fine. the pen related tests fail in firefox because of the harness
15:23:26 <Patrick_H_Lauke> mustaq: the alt/meta failure is a bug in chrome
15:23:29 <mustaq> https://wpt.fyi/results/pointerevents?label=master&label=experimental&aligned&q=pointerevent_boundary_events_modifier_no_pointer_movement.html
15:23:46 <Patrick_H_Lauke> plh: so...i can move forward. that's the good news. there is some bad news...
15:24:15 <Patrick_H_Lauke> plh: i moved too quickly, and now PE3 links to PE4. i'll sort this out, nothing for the group to worry about
15:24:26 <Patrick_H_Lauke> TOPIC: Feedback on https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/pull/637
15:27:33 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: discussed this two weeks ago. think we were agreed at this point that the PR as it stands is not ideal, and we're not keen to take it up as is. making such a weird exception seems hacky and a bad precedent. more work should happen upstream at the openUI side on the concept
15:31:53 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: no further topics, we can keep it short today. reminder to have a look at https://github.com/w3c/breakouts-day-2026/issues/3 if you get a chance to add anything else that may be of interest. i'll cook up an agenda closer to the time (just basic intro, setting the scene, things we looked at as inspiration, opening the floor for folks to discuss/feed back). and as ever thanks to philippe for his help/technical expe[CUT]
15:31:54 <Patrick_H_Lauke> h all the UI events merging.
15:32:30 <Patrick_H_Lauke> plh: need to decide at some point which definition style you want, as now with the merge you have two different styles (table and ?)
15:32:40 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: we'll set some time aside next meeting for it
15:32:52 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: Thank you all, see you in two weeks' time
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15:33:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/25-pointerevents-minutes.html Patrick_H_Lauke
15:33:39 <Patrick_H_Lauke> rrsagent, bye
15:33:39 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in https://www.w3.org/2026/02/25-pointerevents-actions.rdf :
15:33:39 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Olli to review the WPT PR https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/pull/57644 with regards to firefox nightly stability error [1]
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